Why are the
“Tapas 9” key to
solving the
Madeleine
mystery?
Kate and Gerry
McCann were
dining with
seven British
friends at a
tapas restaurant
in the Ocean
Club resort when
Madeleine was
reported
missing. The
friends are
crucial
witnesses but
have said very
little publicly.
Police sources
have claimed
there are
inconsistencies
in their
statements to
officers. The
friends are
Matthew and
Rachael
Oldfield,
Russell O’Brien
and his partner
Jane Tanner and
David and Fiona
Payne and her
mother Dianne
Webster.
Did any of
them see anyone
taking
Madeleine?
Jane Tanner told
police that she
saw a man
walking away
from the McCanns’
apartment at
9.15pm. Sources
close to the
couple have
previously said
that the man had
a child wrapped
in the blanket
and was walking
in a southerly
direction.
However, the
London Evening
Standard
reported
yesterday that
Ms Tanner had
seen man
carrying a girl
dressed in
Madeleine’s
distinctive
pink-and-white
pyjamas walking
eastwards,
towards the
house of the
official suspect
Robert Murat,
33.
Do police
believe this was
a man abducting
Madeleine?
Detectives
refused to
publicise the
sighting for
three weeks.
Another witness,
Jeremy Wilkins,
is reported to
have told police
that he was in
the area talking
to Mr McCann and
did not see the
mystery man.
Did anyone
else in the
Tapas 9 notice
anything
strange?
Matthew Oldfield
said he had
checked on the
McCanns’
apartment at
9.30pm. A source
close to the
McCanns had said
he did not look
into the bedroom
where Madeleine
was sleeping
with the
two-year-old
twins Sean and
Amelie. But the
Evening Standard
report claimed
he saw the twins
but did not have
a view of
Madeleine’s bed.
Was there
anything strange
about the room
after Madeleine
disappeared?
Mrs McCann was
sure Madeleine
had been
abducted because
the bedroom
window was open
and the security
shutter was
forced open, a
source close to
the family has
insisted. Tests
on the shutter
showed no sign
of forced entry.
However, another
friend claimed
yesterday that
the shutter had
been left open.
When will the
Portuguese
courts decide
what to do in
the Madeleine
case?
Pedro Daniel dos
Anjos Frias, a
criminal
instructional
judge in
Portimão, has
decided that
there is no need
for the McCanns
to be
reinterviewed at
this point,
hence the
prosecutor’s
statement last
night. The
threat of them
having to return
to the Algarve
in the near
future has been
lifted. The
judge must
complete his
rulings by today
on a variety of
issues. It is
believed that he
has already
authorised the
use of Mrs
McCann’s diaries
as evidence.
Could the
couple still be
charged soon?
Unlikely. LuÍs
Armando Bilro
Verão, the lead
public
prosecutor, must
now decide if
there is
sufficient
evidence to
bring charges
against them, if
he needs to
request the
PolÍcia
Judiciária to
carry out
further
investigations
or if the case
against them
should be
dropped.
Why is it all
taking so long?
Portuguese
detectives are
still waiting
for the results
of tests on
samples being
carried out by
the Forensic
Science Service
laboratory in
Birmingham. They
are also
believed to want
to carry out
further searches
in the Algarve
and possibly at
the McCanns’
home.
So how long
will the McCanns
have to wait?
The couple can
remain as
arguidos, or
official
suspects, for
eight months
before the
Portuguese
police have to
apply for a
four-month
extension. After
this time they
automatically
cease to be
suspects, but
there is no
requirement for
the prosecutor
to clear them
formally.
Robert Murat, a
British
self-employed
property
consultant on
the Algarve and
the only other
official suspect
in Madeleine’s
disappearance,
has been an
arguido for
four months.
Why has there
been so much
confusion?
Portugal’s
strict laws of
judicial secrecy
mean that nobody
involved in a
criminal
investigation is
allowed to
reveal any of
the evidence in
the case.
However,
Portuguese
police sources
are regularly
quoted giving
incriminating
details about
the McCanns’
role in their
daughter’s
disappearance.
Friends of the
couple have
increasingly
been attempting
to challenge
these reports
with their own
interpretation
of events. Both
sides are
actually
breaking the law
and could face
up to two years
in jail.
Who is who in
Team McCann
Clarence
Mitchell
Former BBC
journalist
appointed on
Monday as Kate
and Gerry
McCann’s
official
spokesman.
Represented them
in May and June
after being sent
to Praia da Luz
by the Foreign
and Commonwealth
Offic
Michael
Caplan, QC
One of few
solicitors to be
appointed QC,
expert in
extradition and
international
criminal law.
Prevented
extradition to
Spain of former
Chilean
president
General Augusto
Pinochet
Angus McBride
Leading criminal
solicitor with
expertise in
dealing with
media and
protecting
reputation of
individuals
subject to media
or criminal
investigation
Carlos Pinto
de Abreu
One of
Portugal’s
best-known
lawyers with
reputation for
taking on
controversial
cases. Lodged
McCanns’ libel
action against
Portuguese
newspaper which
said they were
police suspects
Esther McVey
Former GMTV
presenter and
Conservative
parliamentary
candidate,
trustee and
spokeswoman for
Madeleine Fund.
Has known Mrs
McCann since
they did their A
levels together
Father Haynes
Hubbard
Anglican priest
at church of
Nossa Senhora da
Luz (Our Lady of
the Light) in
Praia da Luz and
his wife, Susan,
have become
close friends
and confidants
of McCanns
Calum MacRae
18-year-old
internet expert
runs Find
Madeleine
website which
has attracted
more than
400,000 unique
users and helped
to raise more
than £1 million
in donations for
campaign
Philomena
McCann
Mr McCann’s
sister, a
headteacher, has
been key family
member to
publicise hunt
for Madeleine
and to defend
her parents
Trish and
Sandy Cameron
Mr McCann’s
sister and
brother-in-law
have been
frequent
visitors to the
couple in Praia
da Luz and
Rothley. About
30 other
relatives and
friends also
visited them in
Praia da Luz
Why are the
McCann’s early
television
interviews being
scrutinised?
Commentators
have seized on
the lack of
emotion shown by
Kate and Gerry
McCann during a
series of
televised
statements and
interviews in
the weeks after
Madeleine’s
disappearance.
It is claimed
that this was an
unnatural
response and
indicated that
the couple were
hiding
something. In
fact, criminal
profilers had
advised them to
display no overt
emotion in case
Madeleine’s
abductor “got
off" on the
sight of her
parents in
obvious
distress. Off
camera, they
were deeply
distressed and
received help
from
counsellors.
How can the
police establish
Mrs McCann’s
state of mind?
Prosecutors are
reported to want
access to Mrs
McCann’s medical
records to see
if there is any
history of
illness such as
depression which
could explain
why she would
kill Madeleine.
They are also
said to want
British police
to carry out
investigations
into the
couple’s
relationship and
personal
history.
Could Mrs
McCann’s
handwriting be
used as
evidence?
A judge has
authorised
police to seize
Mrs McCann’s
diary and
detectives want
a graphologist
to study the
handwriting, it
was reported
yesterday.
Alberto Vaz da
Silva, a
criminal
psychologist and
a handwriting
expert, told the
newspaper 24
Horas: “It would
be possible to
discover the
temper and the
character of the
person in
question. You
can see if
someone is lying
or hiding
something.”
However,
handwriting
evidence is
usually used
only for
forensic science
purposes, not to
determine a
person’s
emotional state.
Why could Mrs
McCann’s
newspaper
interview lead
to jail?
Mrs McCann could
be prosecuted
under Portugal’s
laws of judicial
secrecy for
telling the
Sunday Mirror
that police had
seized her
bible. She said:
“One of the
pieces of
evidence is that
a page from a
passage in
Samuel about
having to tell a
man his child is
dead is crumpled
- so I must have
been reading
it.” The 24
Horas newspaper
said that the
public
prosecutor could
accuse Mrs
McCann of
breaking the
secrecy law,
which carries a
maximum two
years' jail
sentence.
Varradas Leitao,
a member of the
Superior Council
of the
Ministerial
Publico, said:
“A witness or an
arguida, the law
is the same for
everybody. You
cannot divulge
procedural
acts.”
What are the
police doing to
find Madeleine
or her body?
Portuguese
police are
reported to be
preparing for a
new series of
searches using
sniffer dogs and
infra-red
equipment in an
area between
Praia da Luz and
the village of
Burgau, about
two miles to the
west. It has
also been
suggested that
they will search
the church in
Praia da Luz and
the town of
Arao, where a
big operation
was carried out
after an
anonymous
tip-off to a
Dutch newspaper.
Who is
advising Kate
and Gerry
McCann?
British lawyers
Michael Caplan,
QC, an expert in
international
law, and Angus
McBride, a
solicitor who
specialises in
protecting the
reputation of
individuals
subject to media
or criminal
investigation.
They have also
hired a
Portuguese
lawyer, Carlos
Pinto de Abreu,
who filed the
libel action
against a
newspaper which
said the police
suspected them
of involvement
in their
daughter’s
death.
How can the
couple win the
battle of public
opinion?
Clarence
Mitchell, 46,
has been
appointed as
their official
spokesman. He
resigned
yesterday as
head of the
Government’s
Media Monitoring
Unit and had
previously been
seconded to the
Foreign Office
to help the
McCanns in the
weeks after
Madeleine’s
disappearance.
What can Mr
Mitchell do to
help the
McCanns?
His job at the
Cabinet Office
has given him
contacts among
senior members
of the
Government and
Civil Service.
He also has
extensive
contacts with
journalists in
both Britain and
Portugal and
more than 20
years’
experience as a
reporter.
Are the
McCanns paying
for his
services?
No. He has been
employed by one
of their wealthy
backers and will
continue to work
for that person
after the
Madeleine case
is over.
What action
will the police
take this week?
Portuguese
detectives are
due to arrive in
Leicester to
work with a
British police
team
investigating
Madeleine’s
disappearance.
It has been
reported that
Kate McCann
could be
interviewed
again this week.
A Portuguese
judge must
decide by
Thursday whether
to approve
requests by
Portuguese
police to secure
more evidence.
Who’s
advising British
police on the
case?
Tony Connell, a
member of the
Crown
Prosecution
Service’s
special casework
unit, has been
advising the
“Gold Group” of
senior
detectives at
Leicestershire
Police, which is
investigating
the Madeleine
case. Mr Connell
led the review
which led to the
conviction of
Damilola
Taylor’s
killers.
Could the
McCanns be
prosecuted in
Britain?
It is possible
to prosecute a
British citizen
for a murder or
manslaughter
abroad under the
Offences Against
the Person Act
1861. This was
last done in
2005 when
Christopher
Newman was
convicted at the
Inner London
Crown Court of
murdering
Georgina Eager
in Dublin.
Can the
public support
Kate and Gerry
McCann’s legal
battle?
A fighting fund
to help to pay
their legal
costs is
expected to be
announced within
the next few
days. A source
close to the
family told The
Times: “It will
be getting set
up and
formalised as a
proper fund. It
has to be
meticulously
thought
through.”
Why is the
McCanns’ hire
car pivotal to
the
investigation?
Portuguese
police claim
they have found
traces of
Madeleine’s hair
and bodily fluid
in the boot of
the Renault
Scenic,
indicating that
it was used to
transport
Madeleine’s body
after her death.
Scientists have
said that it
should be
possible to
establish
whether the hair
came from a dead
or living
person.
Does this
mean the
scientific
results hold the
key to the case?
Not necessarily.
Kate and Gerry
McCann used the
Budget rental
car to move
apartments,
taking with them
all their
children’s toys
and clothing,
which would have
contained large
amounts of
genetic
material. It was
also used by
friends,
relatives and
people who
worked on the
campaign to find
their daughter.
Where is the
car now?
When the McCanns
left Britain
they drove the
car to the
airport. They
have since said
they will hold
on to the
vehicle to get
their own
independent
scientific
examinations
done.
Under what
circumstances
was the car
searched?
Police seized
the car last
month and took
it to an
underground car
park opposite
their offices in
Portimão. Police
sources say this
is an unusual
place to carry
out such a
delicate search.
Is there any
other
explanation
about how the
material could
have got there?
If the DNA
samples did come
from Madeleine’s
corpse it would
seem an amazing
coincidence that
the McCanns
hired a car used
by their
daughter’s
abductor and
killer. However,
friends of the
McCanns claim
that the couple
are being
framed. It has
also been
suggested that
the samples may
have been
labelled
incorrectly.
Why do
Portuguese
police want to
read Kate
McCann’s
personal
diaries?
Detectives want
to check for
inconsistencies
with the
information
previously given
to police and
for clues about
the personal
relationship
between Mrs
McCann, her
husband and
other members of
the party who
went with them
to Portugal. Mrs
McCann was seen
regularly
writing several
pages a day in
the diaries.
What evidence
could be held on
Gerry McCann’s
laptop computer?
Mr McCann sent
and received
dozens of
e-mails almost
every day from
friends and
people involved
in the campaign
to find his
daughter. It may
be possible to
retrieve those
e-mails, which
detectives hope
could provide
information
about the events
surrounding
Madeleine’s
disappearance
and the couple’s
connections with
other people.
Why does a
Portuguese judge
need to
authorise the
seizure?
Portuguese
police must get
an authorisation
from a judge to
request items
which are abroad
or to retain
items taken
without the
owner’s
permission. Mr
and Mrs McCann
are believed to
have taken most
of the objects
home to Britain.
There are also
reports in
Portugal that
police seized a
copy of Mrs
McCann’s diaries
before the
couple left the
country to
ensure they
could not be
destroyed. A
judge must be
asked to
authorise a
seizure without
the owner’s
consent within
24 hours.
Why didn’t
the Portuguese
police seize
these items in
Praia da Luz?
It may be that
the items left
Portugal some
time ago when Mr
or Mrs McCann
made previous
trips to
Britain, or a
friend may have
taken them. The
couple left the
Algarve on
Sunday morning
at very short
notice. They
notified the
Portuguese
authorities but
perhaps police
did not have the
opportunity to
ask a judge to
authorise the
seizure of items
without the
couple’s
consent.
Has the judge
been asked to
authorise any
other seizures?
Portuguese
papers reported
yesterday that
officers wanted
to obtain
Madeleine’s
favourite soft
toy, which Mrs
McCann took
home. It is also
claimed that
police seized
the Renault
hired by the
McCanns 25 days
after
Madeleine’s
disappearance.
The car
contained
samples of the
girl’s hair and
“bodily fluids”.
What else has
the judge been
asked to do?
It has been
reported that
detectives want
to search the
church in Praia
da Luz where the
couple regularly
prayed after
Madeleine
disappeared.
They would only
require an order
from the judge
if the priest or
bishop in charge
refused to
authorise the
search. It has
also been
suggested that
police want to
search a
cemetery beside
the church and
to excavate
roads where
sewers were
being replaced
at the time of
Madeleine’s
disappearance.
Who is
revealing
details about
scientific
evidence?
By law
Portuguese
police are
prevented from
revealing
details of
investigations.
However, some
officers have
been secretly
briefing
Portuguese
journalists.
What
scientific
evidence have
police
collected?
In a briefings
on Monday night
detectives said
that they found
traces of
“bodily fluids”
in the car which
had probably
come from
Madeleine with a
large amount of
Madeleine’s hair
in the boot of
the car.
Why are the
“bodily fluids”
significant?
When
pathologists
refer to bodily
fluids they
usually mean the
putrefying
substance
created during
the
decomposition of
a body tissue
and blood. This
“fluid” is
evidence that a
corpse has been
present, but DNA
samples are
required to
identify the
body. It is
unclear what
“fluids” have
been found. It
might be traces
of urine, dried
blood or vomit,
which would not
conclusively
prove Madeleine
had died.
Does a large
quantity of hair
prove that
Madeleine’s body
was in the car?
No. The hair
must show
evidence that it
came from a
decomposing
body. Other hair
could be
“transmitted”
from items of
Madeleine’s
clothing and
belongings.
Is anyone
else confirming
these reports?
Sources in
Britain who are
assisting the
Portuguese
investigation
have agreed that
there is
“significant”
scientific
evidence linking
Mr and Mrs
McCann to their
daughter’s
death. However,
Portuguese
officers took
the highly
unusual step of
publicly denying
a report which
was allegedly
based on sources
in Britain.
Does the
scientific
evidence prove
that Madeleine
was killed?
Because the
samples have
degraded over
time the
scientists can
never be 100 per
cent certain
that they came
from Madeleine.
What happened
in the four
hours before
Madeleine was
reported
missing?
Kate and Gerry
McCann claim
that while they
dined at a
restaurant with
friends regular
checks were made
on Madeleine and
their
two-year-old
twins, Sean and
Amelie, at their
nearby holiday
apartment. Mr
McCann told
police he saw
his daughter
asleep at about
9pm. A friend,
Matthew
Oldfield,
entered the
apartment at
about 9.30pm but
did not look in
the bedroom
Madeleine and
the twins were
sharing.
It is not known
if anyone apart
from Mr and Mrs
McCann saw
Madeleine alive
between 6pm and
10pm, when she
was reported
missing by her
mother. The
timing is
crucial but
would be only
circumstantial
evidence in any
prosecution.
Although a small
child could be
killed quickly
it would take
time to hide a
body so that it
was not
discovered in
the biggest
search in
Portuguese
history.
Why did Kate
McCann cry out
“They’ve taken
her?” when she
discovered
Madeleine
missing?
Portuguese
police are
reported to find
it suspicious
that Mrs McCann
immediately
believed that
more than one
person had taken
her daughter.
This could
suggest that she
knew who had
taken Madeleine,
perhaps people
who thought they
were helping Mrs
McCann by
removing her
daughter’s body.
Alternatively,
it could be an
off-the-cuff
remark by an
hysterical
mother or
perhaps was
misheard or
misunderstood in
the confusion of
the night.
What were the
movements of the
McCann’s friends
on the night
Madeleine
disappeared?
The McCann
family had
stayed at the
Ocean Club
resort with
three other
British couples
and their five
children, and a
single woman.
Russell O’Brien,
a doctor from
Exeter, left the
restaurant for
half an hour to
look after his
own daughter,
returning
shortly before
Madeleine was
reported
missing.
His wife, Jane
Tanner, was the
only witness to
report a man
carrying away
child from the
McCann’s
apartments.
There is
confusion about
when members of
the party
arrived at the
tapas restaurant
and left to
check on their
own sleeping
children.
How much
alcohol did the
McCanns and
their friends
drink on the
evening
Madeleine
disappeared?
Kate and Gerry
McCann and their
friends are
reported to have
told detectives
they shared four
bottles of wine,
with another two
barely touched
before Madeleine
was discovered
missing.
However, it is
claimed
detectives have
recovered a bill
showing they
downed eight
bottles of red
wine and six
white during the
afternoon and
evening.
Why was
Madeleine’s
bedroom window
and shutter
open?
Kate and Gerry
McCann told
police that the
window shutter
in Madeleine’s
bedroom, which
could not been
seen from the
restaurant, had
been forced
open.
Police tests
showed the heavy
metal shutter
had not been
forced up from
the outside, so
must have been
pulled open from
inside the room.
Assuming that
the abductor
entered through
the apartment’s
unlocked patio
windows, why
would he or she
not leave by the
same way or the
use the front
door?
Or was the
window opened to
make it appear
as if an
intruder had
used it to enter
the bedroom?
Why did
Madeleine’s
sister and
brother sleep
through her
“abduction”?
Sean and Amelie
were heavy
sleepers who
were not
disturbed by
their sister’s
abduction, claim
their parents.
However, they
also slept
through their
mother’s
hysterical
response to
Madeleine’s
disappearance
and the presence
of dozens of
people who
joined the
search before
being carried
out by a female
police officer.
Kate and Gerry
McCann have
strenuously
denied sedating
their daughter.
Why were the
McCanns allowed
to leave
Portugal if they
are suspects?
The Portuguese
authorities
allowed the
McCanns to
return to the UK
after they
agreed to reside
only at their
home in Rothley
and to return
for further
questioning if
necessary.
Portuguese law
states that
after someone is
declared a
suspect, police
have eight
months to
conclude the
investigation
into that
individual. If
they require
further time
officers can
apply to the
courts for a
four-month
extension.
If the McCanns
refused to
comply with a
request to
return to the
Algarve for
interview,
Portuguese
police could
issue a European
Arrest Warrant
under which
extradition can
be carried out
within six
weeks.
Why has it
taken so long to
find the
evidence that
could implicate
Kate and Gerry
McCann?
The material was
only collected
at the end of
July and early
August in a
review of the
investigation
carried out by
Portuguese
detectives with
the help of
British police
and two sniffer
dogs. Many of
the samples are
very small,
containing just
a few cells,
while others are
of poor quality
because of
damage by
cleaning or
simply the
passing of time.
A full report of
the findings
will not be
ready for weeks,
but many results
have already
been passed to
the Portuguese
authorities.
What evidence
were police
looking for?
Detectives are
searching for
any evidence
that proves
Madeleine is
dead or
contradicts the
accounts of Mr
and Mrs McCann
and other
witnesses.
What is the
most important
forensic
evidence?
It appears the
Forensic Science
Service believes
it has
discovered
compelling new
evidence,
possibly from
more than one
source.
Portuguese
detectives told
Mrs McCann
repeatedly that
they found
traces of
Madeleine’s
blood in a
Renault Scenic
hired three
weeks after she
disappeared,
suggesting that
the missing
girl’s parents
used the vehicle
to carry her
body. It is
possible to tell
if the blood
came from a
living person or
from a corpse,
and even the
time of death.
However, some
reports suggest
that the quality
of the blood
sample was too
poor to confirm
the origin while
others have
denied any blood
was found in the
vehicle and
claim it was
other “bodily
fluids”. Unless
a body had been
placed in a
freezer, it
would have badly
decomposed
during the warm
weather; leaving
a mass of traces
invisible to the
human eye.
Does any
trace of
Madeleine in the
hire car prove
she was killed?
No. Mr and Mrs
McCann hired the
car to buy new
clothes in the
town of Portimão
a day before
they flew to
Rome to see Pope
Benedict XVI.
They then used
it regularly for
family outings
and to collect
friends and
relatives from
Faro airport.
They continued
using the car
until shortly
before flying
home yesterday.
Kate and Gerry
and their
two-year-old
twins would have
often carried in
the car items
used by
Madeleine. These
items could
easily certainly
carry
Madeleine’s hair
and minute
traces of skin,
dried blood,
saliva and
vomit. The same
could be said of
the holiday
apartments used
by the McCanns
and their
friends in the
Ocean Club
resort. However,
if the blood
came from
Madeleine’s
corpse the only
other highly
unlikely
explanation
would be that a
previous hirer
had moved the
body.
One report
suggested
yesterday that
Madeleine’s DNA
had been found
on the floor of
the McCanns
holiday
apartment, but
because of
degredation it
was based on an
incomplete
picture, with
only 15 of the
20 genetic
markers usually
used for such
analysis.
What is the
DNA evidence
that has
supposedly been
found by the
Portuguese
investigators?
Newspapers in
Portugal have
been reporting
that “biological
fluids” with an
80 per cent
match to
Madeleine’s DNA
have been found
underneath
upholstery in
the boot of the
McCanns’ rented
Renault Scenic.
Some media
reports claimed
that another DNA
sample with a
100 per cent
match to that of
Madeleine’s
profile had been
found in the
car.
What would
this tell us?
Perhaps nothing.
If it was
sourced from
something such
as a hair
follicle or skin
cells then that
could have been
one of
Madeleine’s
hairs that had
stuck to the
clothes of a
family member or
her “cuddle cat”
toy that her
mother carries.
If it was from
Madeleine’s
blood or corpse,
that could be
more
significant. The
most important
issue is the
size of the
sample found. If
there was a
substantial
amount of
material it is
unlikely to be
from accidental
contamination
and would
indicate that
Madeleine had
been in the car.
Can
investigators
establish if the
DNA sample comes
from someone who
was alive or
dead?
Unlikely,
according to
British experts.
A DNA profile
does not change
just because
someone dies.
You can tell if
DNA has degraded
but that can
happen if, for
example, it had
been exposed to
sunshine.
Does an 80
per cent match
with biological
fluids indicate
that Madeleine
was definitely
in the car?
No. The sample
will have been
tested against a
definite sample
of Madeleine’s.
A 80 per cent
match indicates
that profilers
could find only
16 of the 20
markers usually
used for such
analysis and
suggests that
the biological
traces are tiny
and degraded.
Additionally,
the twins Sean
and Amelie could
share a high
percentage of
DNA
characteristics
as most siblings
do.
What complicates
the matter
further is that
all three of the
McCanns’
children were
born through IVF
and it is
unknown whether
the couple’s
sperm and eggs
were used for
conception.
What about
the discoveries
of the “cadaver”
sniffer dog?
Mr and Mrs
McCann were
shown a police
video of a
sniffer dog used
to find corpses
“going crazy”
when it
approached the
hire car.
Reports also
claim that is
discovered the
scent on the
vehicle’s key
fob. Mrs McCann
is reported to
have explained
that in her work
as locum GP she
came into
contact with six
corpses in the
weeks leading up
to Algarve
holiday.
This seems a
high number for
a locum GP
working just a
couple of days a
week but would
be easy to check
against surgery
records.
The crucial
difficulty with
the sniffer dog
“evidence” is
that it cannot
distinguish
between corpses.
This type of dog
is trained to
find bodies, not
identify where
dead bodies have
been. Crucially,
they can become
excited by other
scents.
Any evidence
of Madeleine’s
death on Cuddle
Cat?
The cadaver dog
is alleged to
have become
excited when
shown
Madeleine’s
favourite soft
pink toy, called
Cuddle Cat. The
cat had become
poignant symbol
of a mother’s
loss as Kate
McCann carried
it with her at
all time from
the night of
Madeleine’s
disappearance.
She washed it
four days after
the police
tests, claiming
it had become
dirty. The toy
was potentially
crucial evidence
and should have
been seized by
police very
early in the
investigation.
What evidence
can be found in
Mrs McCann’s
Bible?
Mrs McCann, a
devout Roman
Catholic, claims
that police told
her that a
crumpled page in
her Bible was
evidence that
she was involved
in the death of
her daughter.
The page
contained a
passage from
Samuel II,
chapter 12,
verses 15-19,
which recalls
how man’s child
is stricken with
illness after he
“scorns” the
Lord.
The man fasts
for seven days,
refusing to get
up off the
ground, to try
to gain
redemption — but
eventually his
child dies. Mrs
McCann claims
that detectives
told her that
damage to the
page proved she
had been reading
it.
Why are the
McCanns suspects
in their
daughter’s
killing?
Portuguese
police refuse to
say why the
couple have been
made official
suspects. Under
Portuguese law
police can not
question someone
as if they had
committed a
crime unless
they are a
“suspect”. It
could simply be
that police
wanted to ask
the couple about
the evidence
they had
collected, and
that the
seriousness of
the process has
been
misunderstood
and exaggerated
by cultural and
language
differences. The
McCanns believed
that they were
about to be
charged with
Madeleine’s
death, but it
does not appear
police disclosed
any crucial
evidence to
them.
All parties have
strenuously
denied any
wrongdoing.
Gina, Kailua, U.S.
if people aree seiing madeling
whyy dont they say somthing
i just dont understand?
chloee, newzealend,
I don't think the McCann's have cleared their names yet. I think they and their friends should be delighted to be returning to Portugal for a reconstruction. This is another opportunity to clear names and produce potential new evidence to find the perpetrators of this crime.
So, why not return?
Nick, Darlington, UK
I don't think they did it, but I'll accept the verdict of a Portugese court if it gets that far. I hope it doesn't. If it does, I don't see how any present evidence stacks up to a conviction. But should the worst happen? Portugal is a far more fit and proper system than many we extradite to.
Eric Skelton, Cardiff, Wales
I was wondering if everyone they came in contact with.. airport security, others in restaurants, shops, etc., had been questioned. I feel that they were targeted and someone had been watching them for quite awhile. I think it important to totally retrace their steps upon arrival in Portugal .
rita weyls, n ridgeville, usa
Well it has been a sad time for the McCanns to know that there wonderful daughter was stolen from them so suddenly. It was unfair for them to pass through such a hard moment that no other mother and father would want to pass through. Well it isn't over lets pray Madeleine is still alive.
Katie, Monrovia, California
kate and gerry mccann shouldn't of left madeleine and her brother and sister alone and this would have never happen and they will still had madeleine with them to i will send my love to them to hope madeleine is return safe and well
Natalie russell, croydon, england
The child is missing and that is a fact.. If only is always on their minds.. The friends have confusing messages about their roles in this... Did anyone out there want to tease the McCann's and hide the child making them upset about leaving Madeleine alone? then it all went wrong?
Sarah, Reading, Berkshire
This is the second time I have written a comment. I am amazed at the vitrolic attacks on the McCanns. When is a person innocent until proved guilty? My heart goes out to them in these most awful times.
Pa
Pamela, Harrow, UK
both parents should be delt with for neglect of three young children, what sort of parents are they to leave such young children alone in another country, discrace to call yourselves parents
neil, barnsley , yorkshire. uk
when will the mccann's take the responsibily for their child going missing, if they carried out their responsibility as a parent they would not have left them in the apartment alone in the first place.
w.harris, llanelli, uk
its odd because the last issues does not include obtaining a complete staff list and in vestigating all staff 2 be onist think the parents had something to do with it they didnt seem upset or nothing but why maddie not one of the twins it seems weried
sarah , stafford, england
All these news paper articles about the mc canns being paid for movie deal and tv interviews in america are quite alarming as i am sure no parent would financially benefit for the loss of a child. It is a very confusing case and as there are no real clues proving one way or the other that maddie is dead or alive we have to believe she is alive some where and just hope that soon enough she will be returned safetly. In my opinion the only thing that matters is the safe return of a precious little girl who must be missing her family. I truly hope that all the articles i read about these deals are not true as i am sure they are not and send my best wishes the the mc cann family.
lynne, preston, lancashire
Since the start of the investigation there has been a complete lack of information about the movements and inquiries carried out by Portuguese police. Whether this is because of the secrecy law in enforcement, in order to aid their investigation or because the police have a lack of information themselves, we don't know. But the fact that the case was handled so haphazardly in its early stages by Portuguese detectives suggests they do in fact have a lack of information. The inexperience of the Portuguese police force ensured that the initial stages of investigation were almost useless. And here we are, almost eight months into the investigation and are nowhere closer to finding Madeleine or arresting her murderer/captor. We don’t even know if she is alive!!! It is unlikely that any further inquiries will shed any light onto the investigation as all the trails have gone cold. If we were to have any chance in rescuing Madeleine, we should have been at this stage eight months ago.
Adham Hussein, Cairo, Egypt
It seems odd that the list of issues does not include obtaining a complete staff list and investigating all staff, and obvious initial investigation point.
Emma H., Ottawa,
Why did Kate McCann refuse to answer Portuguese Police questions?
Why did Mr. McCann say he could see the apartment from the Tapas bar when he could not?
Why did they both claim an abduction immediately given that the door and window was open - surely the child could have wandered off?
Note that statistics clearly show that most children that are abused and so on are abused and so on by parents.
Why are some people blindly supporting them? Are they connected to them and are email bombing sites using different names? In theory is that possible?
Tracy Hill, Bolton, England
i just want to say that in a case like this no one can be ruled out, we live in a strange and wicked world where a lot of human actions cannot be explained. I dobelieve we will be perplexed at the outcome of this story and i know its only a matter of time, the truth will out!!!
temi, aberdeen, scotland
After reading all your expose,and having listened to the Radio,Television etc, and being a Grandfather, this is what I can summarize so far, Logically there are Four posibilites 1that she was kidnapped 2 she was abducted for a Childless candidate 3 she was taken by a Perverted Moron, 4 or that she,s being held Captive. Now if we are dealing with murder, as well we might, then logic reasoning and fact must all contribute much like a jigsaw, which some of your commentators seem to think the Police, just hammer into position,which is insatiable tripe. As R. Kipling wrote I Know of six wise men, that have taught me everything that I ever needed to Know, WHO,WHAT,WHY,WHERE.WHEN and HOW. So When was she last seen alive ? apart from the Parents the day before ? or the same day ? When was she last seen with the Whole family together ? these sorts of questions only the Police and Procecutors are authorized to ask in the most sensitive and considerate manner imaginable, this is their job.
G.D.Flynn, Roterdam, K.R. Nederlands
We all do strange things at times of trauma and anguish. What makes my blood run cold is the cadava dogs excitement, when people are dying some dogs will howl, it could be God forbid that those dogs have picked up on something that is more in the supernatural realm. what type of a person would see a man wandering with a child wrapped in a bed roll hurriedly and not make a stir amongst others immediately and report it? If somebody had come to me straight away knowing children were unattended my blood would run cold and I would bolt to their room. Robert Murat although appearing overly helpful is far too secretive and solitary. His ex wife never really knew what he was up to half the time. This upsets me I hoped Maddie would still be alive.
anita pennell, darlington , united kingdom
I think the latest revelations from their friends are very damaging and make them look more guilty and are trying to provide them with an alibi - if Ms Tanner saw all this stuff why has it taken her over 6 months to come forward???
Andy, Liverpool,
Look this is a very sad situation, it really is, but I looked at the "find Maddie" website, and was amazed to discover an "online shop" WHY??? The mccanns seem to have turned this tragic event into a marketing ploy. Do we really need to purchase all manner of Maddie items. Finally, people may not agree with me, but Little Maddie should never never have been left alone, under any circumstances. I feel for these poor people, but that is just my oppinion.
Jeremy Newman, LEEDS, UK
I find it very strange that Mrs McCann washed the cuddle cat. I do realise she might not want it to look too dirty on television and on photos, but she being an intelligent person should have known better. I mean that, if she claims the cat was taken by the abductor and put onto a shelf, she would then understand it could contain vital proof of DNA of the abductor. Why didn't she simply give it to the police? And, further more, why did the police not take it? Because they thought Madeleine had just wandered off and would return by herself?
Lisa, Huddinge, Sweden
I try to belive she is fine, and well,but is so ward to think how she's missing ,why just her because the brother and sister sleep through and the same bed ,i now its not easy .But the truth will be know anyone can see but God see everything if someone is lying or hiding something.Don't give up!!!
Renata Gomes, BH Minas Gerais, Brasil
Nobody knows what happened to this lovely little girl. We should not judge because we just don't know. There is no real evidence that shows us what happened to her. The evidence is all circumstantial.I just hope she is alive and well somewhere. I can't help but wonder out of all those supposed sightings of Madeleine, why did someone not go up and look in the childs eyes, then they would have known whether it was Madeleine or not.
Claire, Belfast, Northern Ireland
It's not our place to judge how one should react in such a situation. Where is your heart? There's no book that says if something happens you your child this is how you should behave. People handle situations in different ways and it's not our place to judge. Haven't you heard that you can't believe everything you read. The media isn't helping things at all. I'm a mother of 4 and I sit back and listen to all of you being so cruel to these parents. I just hope that the day comes when we find out what happened to this beautiful little girl and I feel in my heart that you will eat your hurtful words. If the McCanns are reading this, please know that not everyone in this world is so judgemental and that my heart goes out to you both for all that you must be going through. I can't imagine and I just pray that I don't ever have to find out. I will keep praying for you both and I hope that Madeleine will be found alive and well. The truth will be known. Don't give up. God Bless You!
Priscillia Dennis, Creedmoor, North Carolina, USA
The McCanns have not been charged with any offence against which there is need to defend them. Sensible people know this!
D M Cumbria
D Mary McCormack, Carlisle , England
I'm with Ian from new York on this. YOU ARE ALL NASTY DESPICABLE people to be like this about this poor couple who have LOST THEIR DAUGHTER! Hello, are any of you parents out there?? It's heart wrenchingly awful and I feel sick for them So this bile and spew that comes out of stupid, uneductaed narrow minded people about how they must be guilty is a pathetic reminder that our contry is full of stupid mean people. My heart goes out to Gerry and Kate McCann. You "horrid" people should perhaps focus your negative nasty energy on the sick child abuser who abducted her. ome on, the police must have a list of these types living in the area. This really mnakes me sick.
sasha ozmen, London, England
Does it strike anyone else as odd that the only people who publicly defend the McCanns are members of their own family or hired speakers? Did they have no real friends or work colleagues - who could speak in their favour? I find this aspect of the case very significant indeed, particularly given their occupations.
Ursula Killeen, Dublin, IRELAND
You're all horrid. The police in Portugal have been horrid (I mean seriously, they want the girl's favorite soft toy and her mother's Bible? Disgusting!) and the public has been even worse. So yes, argue whether you think the little girl is alive, argue whether you think she is still in Portugal, argue whether you think her own mother did it, I hope it makes you feel better. Don't stop at all to think what all the discussion could do to the people who are actually involved, what does that matter?
Ian, New York, USA
Who had access to the hire car, when all the eyes of the world were watching the McCann's meeting the Pope?
Dave, South Wales, UK
I have friends who went to the exact same Holiday Apartments a few years ago and they did exactly the same with their children. Their whole group did. It seems, as they tell it, that it was a perfectly acceptable and done by many. I live in "crime ridde" South Africa and we often leave our children asleep at holiday resorts and they have people walking around listening for noises etc and they then alert the parents.
jean, Durban,
I would like to say, like millions i have followed this case from day 1, Dont believe all what the papers say for a start as alot of what they say is fabricated to sell papers, this is going of past experience.
This is frustrating for me as right from the begining before it came out in the papers mum and i spent alot of time speculating as to whether the McCanns were acturally involved in some way regarding the disapperance of Maddy.
When something like this happens you usually find that the people involved are very close to home. But on the other hand they have put up one hell of a front infront of millions of people.
I think that the police are closer to finding out the truth than we know. I dont think Maddy is alive, no matter who did what. Cos of the media coverage, she would of been taken underground, and no one would be stupid enough to keep hold of her dead or alive too much is at stake for the offender. So stop looking for maddie abroad, i think shes in Portugal still.
Dawn, Warrington,
The Portuguese PJ (Policia Judiciaria) has been considered the best criminal police in the world last year, so let’s wait and pray for madeleine!
Maria, Coimbra,
Hang on now - "leaving 3 babies sleeping alone in an apartment" - this smacks of a witch hunt. When you are in your own home, how often do you check that your children are still there in their beds? - I never did with mine, unless they woke up, which wasn't often - my kids would certainly have slept through a noisy party once they were asleep!
Weren't the parents only supposed to be about 50 yards away? - ie no different from sitting in the garden if you live in the country & have a garden. And with the windows open probably more audibility than if the parents were in the living room in the same house but with doors & windows shut. Whether the parents were downstairs, in the house next door or in the street outside would have made little difference - & this certainly doesn't qualify as neglect.
Heather, Croydon, England
So many children go missing every month all over the world. What about those children? The whole thing stinks how a rich couple who neglect their children get so much attention and money! Friends in high places to protect them and a PR campaign to smoke screen the initial neglect. Lack of emotion from the parents and scientific evidence that is very suspicious for the parents. With so much publicity about this it seems impossible that noone would have come forward by now if the girl was still alive or if she had been abducted. Time to give the money back or use it to help other less well off parents find their missing children. As for the Police trying to frame the McCanns... get a life.. this claim in itself makes me suspicous of the parents. Take a lie detector test or have a psychic look into the case if you are not afraid of what might be found out! This whole thing is turning into a circus now and getting very boring. No more sympathy for parents just the little girl...
M Mills, London,
I hope maddy is found safe
and brought home
i give kate and gerry all sympathy
dont give up
carry on lookin
xxxxxxxxxx
aimee, halifax, england
I think this article was very well directed. Given all the various stories that have arisen (fictional or not). However, if Jane Tanner says she saw "man with child" then I would hope that under hypnosis this ladies sighting was gone into more detail. If a man was carrying a body a vehicle would have been waiting or parked nearby as this would have enabled an easier and quicker getaway. Also it would have been a strange sighting and did she not say anything at the Tapas Bar that evening. I hope this avenue is given more credence.
Janet, Bacup, England
IF EVENTUALLY madeline is returned safe and well, the public will be perfectly justified in asking a great many questions, not only about police procedure and the so called leaking of information to the media, but also about the way these cases are to be presented in the future and whether it is acceptable to play out scenario's of this kind on a public stage.
the little girl is still missing, I would like to think the search continues.
T Birks, Vendome, France
Surely they must have Madeline's DNA from her hairbrush or other source from back in the UK ? So we ought to know exactly what her DNA is, irrespective of whether her parents are non, partly or fully biological. This clutching at straws involving "psychics" is a sad comment on the gullibilty of the desperate.
Jan, Auckland, New Zealand
I think of Madeleine every day. I feel sadness for her as she much be so afraid and lonely. She is such a beautiful girl who should be feeling the love of her mother, father, brother and sister right now. I am also confused about every aspect of this situation and can only pray that she is still alive out there somewhere and that in time she will be found. Any other thought at this moment is too painful. God be with you Madeleine and I will never stop praying for you. Gerry and Kate Never Stop looking for your daughter Maddy.
Noreen, Laois, Ireland
I want to say that this all story verry similar to Lithuanian family when mother killed ( in this year)her two sons and told that someboday steal ,all bahavior verry similar, but I am as mother who losed child can say for me very strange Mrs MacCann behavior ...
Irena, London, UK
I am so confused with all the events of Maddy - my only hope and concerns at the moment are with Maddy please may she be found........
vesta, torquay, devon
i wish maddie was never tken sh lokks like such a happy little kid pleas keep searching for her dont stop and if any1 has got her reading this then take her to a safe place back to Kate and Grry all the best to Kate and Gerry dnt stop looking.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Tasha...Jenkins....., portalbot, sandfeilds
Yes I agree with Sunshine in Perth, I too would search every avenue possible and yes I would use the psychics.. even if it were against my religion.....the most important thing to me would indeed be the recovery of my child. I would have insisted that both myself and my husband took the lie detector test also, in full public view ..knowing my innocense would pull me through...because I'm sceptical too about the lack of emotion shown by both parents in this matter...I have read they were advised not to show emotion.. but hey!...were does a mothers love show....in her heart and in her actions ... the best paid actors in the world would have difficulty here....I pray I'm wrong and little Madeline is still alive....I think about her every day....and no my husband and I were not among those who left their children alone while we went out to drink...when we went on holiday our children went with us everywhere...too many coincidences... too many lies...where is the truth!.Madeline God Bless x
June Wray, DURHAM, ENGLAND
The Spirit of the Lord is upon you Madeleine, my God Himself has anointed you. Where ever you are - i cover you with the precious blood of Jesus Christ from the crown of your head to the souls of your feet. I claim you, Madeleine, for a safe and speedy comeback, in the name of Jesus.Amen.
Louisa, Baroda, India - Gujarat
For so many months I have been following this story and wondering...can a human mind be so genius that it is able to defy corps, detectives, and intelligence agencies. Whatever is going on...it's the most toughest time for the McCann family..I don't know them but I feel connected to them in someways.. Iam praying everyday that we can get Maddy back as soon as possible. GOD BLESS YOU..
Akanksha Saraswat, Ahmedabad, India
Perhaps the only way to seek the truth is by asking world renowned psychics? If this were my child, instead of website blogging and attending concerts, I would be asking John Edward, Sylvia Browne and the psychics used by US and UK Police Forces who took my child, where is their body and how can I get them back!!!! If it was my child, I would try these avenues as they have proven time and time again how accurate they are and indeed, have been used to find missing children and solve murder investigations. I pray that young Madeleine is found alive... safe and in good health.
Sunshine, Perth, Australia
Please lets not forget that no one really knows what has happened to Madeleine, so please, everyone, lets continue to pray for her. No matter where she is, this little girl has been through so much and could use all of our love, support, and prayers. So, if you all care for Maddie like you say that you do, lets not start hurtful rumors when we could be praying for Madeleine. Let's not forget the whole reason why we read about her, we all care about her and want to see her safe return. Thank You. Madeleine, you are always in my thoughts and prayers and you will be in my heart forever. No matter where you are, I hope you are found safe soon!
Alexandra Lynn Barger, Petersburg, Wv, USA
Having recently been on holiday in Portugal, I would like to point out that the shutters on the windows of the apartment were similar to the one on the villa we stayed in. (These were shown on t.v. recently.) The shutters are not as we generally know them (i.e. French style shutters which open and close outwards and inwards.) They are roller shutters which slide upwards and downwards, and they do not have locks on them. We were concerned about the safety of our grandchildren, who like to sleep with the windows open. We found that the roller shutters can easily be pushed up from the outside, and did not require any force at all to move them. Needless to say we made our grandchildren sleep with the windows firmly closed.
So Mrs McCann was right the abductor could have got in that way very easily.
Ray Mitcham , Southport, Merseyside
I would obviously like to see the safe return of Madeleine. However, charges should be made as regard to leaving 3 babies sleeping alone in an apartment. This should also extend to the friends who also left their children alone whilst out enjoying themselves. They are professional people who are more than able to pay for the babysitting service that this complex has to offer. The "Tapas 7" are all keeping schtum. I have a feeling there is more to this than meets the eye. There are too many unanswered questions.
Jen, Glasgow, UK
I see many similarities with the Jon Benet Ramsey case in the U.S...bungled crime scene investigation, well-respected parents coming under suspicion, questions regarding the parent's partying the night before the child dies/disappears, media blaming the parents...but so far, Maddie hasn't been found dead or alive...British and Portuguese authorities need to focus on FINDING Maddie...any criminal prosecution can take place after she's found...hopefully, alive.
Karen, Tennessee, USA
To The McCanns: Since the news of your precious child Madeline being missing, my heart has been sickened. Every day I pray to God that he will show the way for her to reappear and or that someone will find her so that she can be reunited with her family. I feel empathy for you both and the siblings. Being blessed with a four year old grand-daughter, I just cannot imagine what it would be like without her. All I can do is pray for little Madeline to come back home and keep the both of you in my heart.
T.Leigh Wallace, HIGH POINT, NC,USA
As a response to Lorna, Wokingham, England
".... . The McCanns are lucky that they were not arrested when they returned to the UK for leaving 3 under 5's alone. There plan to 'mind' them from the restaurant has proved not to work."
Can we hear from parents who have previously stayed at that resort. We stayed there but that was 20 years ago and we were lucky enough to have our friend and baby sitter with us.
This was also meant to be a holiday for 2 hard working parents and I can assure you that when Madeleine is restored to them, social workers will worry that they are being "over anxious".
I am sure that most (all) parents, how ever careful and responsible they are have a feeling of "there but for fortune ..."
Kate and Gerry my hope and my sympathy are with you.
Liz, Maldon, Essex,
Why did Kate McCann cry out “They’ve taken her?†when she discovered Madeleine missing?
Why 'her', not'Madeleine'? They do have another daughter, yery Gerry McCann and the friends seem to have known who she was referring to.
Maria, Glasgow, Scotland
I've been trying to follow the M'Cann case, With all hope that from the beginning the little girl would be found.
We're all so tied up in what the Algarve goverment has to say,l because it is so diffrent than that of our own, We're comming to outragous solutions.
We've never heard such storey kine of "Who rented the hire car before the Mcann Family?"
It's turley hard to belive that someone could kill their own flesh & blood.
But I guess, it sometimes happens.
I guess, all we can do is pray that she might be alive, Or that her killers are found and procecuted.
Joanna, manchester, Lancashire
I do agree with a great many of the comments. I too feel very sorry for the McCanns, but my patience is fast running out, as it is becoming more like a soap everyday.
I too can't understand why a lie detector is not used to help to find out whether Kate and Gerry are telling the truth or not.
I don't think all the donations are going to help bring back Maddie. I think that all the media should stop and the police both in Portugal and Britain should be allowed to get on with the investigation. If Maddie is to be found, it is more likely to happen if it is not broadcast every day.
sarah, Cupar, Scotland
....because finding Madeleine is the inperative here and I feel that the focus of the investigation is being lost. I am also disgusted that Portugal, Spain and other counrtries don't have a sex ofenders register but am enlightened by the work of the American organisation who has managed to retrieve 86% of children who were deemed missing. I hope that Madeleine can be another.
Frances Boyd-Hill, Hartlepool, England
one question hasn't been asked... can the McCann's be compelled (here in Britain) to answer the 40 questions that they refused to answer when interviewed by the police in Portugal?
ed bradbury, bournemouth, dorset
Regarding McCanns statement of going to a local tip to dispose of rotten food & nappies.
I have been to the Algarve many times.Communual waste bins are everywhere never more than 2-3 hundred yards apart and they are emptied at least once a day, often twice.
No one would have a need to go to the local tip, indeed as a tourist who would know where the tip was?
Mike, colchester, uk
I have tried to write but it doesn't seem to go through------BUT I do wish to say THANK YOU to Jaydn of USA for your thoughts and prayers for Madeline - Your thoughts and prayers are well said - I follow you completely.
doreen Loucks, brockville ontario, canada
If this happened in Britain to a foreign family having a holiday here the British public would be breaking our force & making these parent as suspects. This is because our British people like to back up they own without knowing the facts of the case. From what has come out the parents have played some kind of a role in this little girls disapearance. Even if the parents are not gulity of killing little Maddie, they are on the same level as the person who abducted her and should be punished for neglecting their daughter and breaking the portuguese law e.g, neglecting children and secretcy law. The portuguese police/authories are doing they very best in this case & please appreaciate they efforts. There were false leads in the case, thats because the McCanns and they friends statement are inconsistant.
People are saying they are doctors, they are professional people why would they do such a thing? Well a doctor would be the 1st to report to social service for irresponsible behaviour.
S Singh, Preston, UK
The only criminals I can see are the people leaking information and the people pointing fingers before a trial.
aregan, sheffield, uk
Clearly the implication of the McCanns has been fueled by speculation and there is no way at the current state of affairs their involvement could be proved. However let's remember that it has been the British media/public who have from the very first day put the Portuguese police in a corner with unfair suspicion on their ability to deal with the case. They certainly lacked the cutting edge expertise but they have tried their best in such a complex case. I remember one Portuguese reporter when interviewed by a British counterpart just one or two days of the disappearance noting that this type of case was very rare in Portugal and that clearly the Police was by no stretch of imagination up to scratch to handle it. However, even in the UK where these cases occur week in week out many of them remain unsolved. Let's be patient, fair and keep an open mind. Otherwise we risk judging the McCanns, and indeed the Portuguese police, on the basis of very circumstancial evidence.
Marcio Aquino, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
It seems like all of the "evidence" is completely circumstantial. No one seems sure of anything. I know the Mccann's must have been terrified that based of this "evidence" they could possibly be jailed for something they didn't do. It was best to get out of Portugal and get their own lawyers around them. I have always had a gut feeling that Maddie is nearby, being held right under everyone's nose. I wish the authorities would have the right to simply check each and every home, building, basement, that they possibly could. All around the world, people are kidnapped and held, even in make-shift underground "bunkers" of a crude sort, or hidden in a closet some hundred yards from their own home, the abductor able to hear the search going on around him. This case haunts me, and I am so worried about Maddie. Everyone needs to pray daily for her return. If she is gone, she is with the Lord and happy. If she is still here, that's what we have to worry about. Please just pray!
Jadyn , USA,
why is it just the mccanns who are been investigated when they shared the apartment with their friends.
donna, bramley leeds, england
Unless we have had a child we love stolen I don't see how we can speculate on how we would act - maybe we would displace our feelings into doing our makeup meticulously or maybe we would fall to pieces in public - how can we possibly know and judge?
If the McCanns are innocent they have gone through the most horrible emotional torture I can imagine and the search for Madeleine's has lost precious time. Surely it is best to err on the side of supporting them lest we find Madeleine and they are unable to care for her because they have both had mental breakdowns.
Julia, Leeds, UK
Julia, Leeds, UK
Would Kate McCann as a devout Roman Catholic given the truly once-in-a-lietime opportunity really stand in front of the Pope, look him in the eye and lie ? I doubt it.
Claire, leeds, U.K
Priscilla London uk I think you should read all the evidence
again and you may see it stinks.
Eunice, Lancs, U/K
I am also following this story because IN teh beginning I really believed that Madeleine would be found. Now I do not now what to think but I have also many questions, this case is really a mistery. As other people here wonder...
WHO RENTED BEFORE MADDIE'S PARENTS THIS CAR WHERE SO MUCH EVIDENCE WAS FOUND????? Maybe someone has set up al those evidence against them in purpose??? It is just hard to believe that they could accidentally kill their own daughter, covered up creating such media attention, moving the world searching for Madeleine!!!!
Ines, Reutlingen, Germany
Why didn't the friend at the dinner party alert the others when she saw a man carrying a child in a blanket? Surely that would have been the obvious thing to do when she knew that the children were alone in the apartment/
col, limassol, Cyprus
Since 3rd May, I have never for one second doubted the innocence of Kate or Gerry. Like many, I am appalled by some of the irrational attacks the McCann's have had to suffer and suspect that there is an attempt being made to frame them. As mentioned by a few other contributors, I find it very bizarre that there has not been any mention in the media of whether any investigation has been undertaken in respect of other persons that hired the car prior to the McCann's. I was delighted to hear today that Richard Branson has announced he is instrumental in setting up a fighting fund to pay for any legal costs. Hopefully with someone of his stature lending support, will assist in turning the tide of public support back to Kate and Gerry where it wholeheartedly belongs.
Finally, I too have a good feeling that Madeleine is still alive and hope and pray that she will soon be found.
Terry Waller, Uckfield, UK
I don't understand why some people are defending the McCanns with such anger, as if there is something morally wrong with even accusing them, no matter what the evidence may be. The Portuguese police seem to believe there are enough grounds to suspect them. Reading this Times article certainly confirms that feeling in my mind. But maybe they'll turn out to be entirely innocent. We just don't know, do we? It's bizarre that some people are saying they MUST be innocent, almost as an article of faith. And some of the comments about Portuguese police are pretty racist. At least they don't shoot dead Brazilian tourists just because they are wearing a rucksack.
Paul Davies, Oxford, Oxfordshire
You know what they say about chickens coming home to roost!
When it comes out, and I am pretty sure it will, there will be an awful lot of high profile people with egg on their faces.
Wilson, Bradford, United Kingdom
I hope the little girl is still alive and the parents are innocent.
But could this have been a normal event that turned horrific?Could the McCanns have accidently overdosed the child?
If the child has died then there are more than 2 people involved.
Correct the McCanns could not have removed the body so quickly ,so just my opinion and only my opinion that someone else might also be involved???
Matt , Dubai, UAE
Innocent until proven guilty and lets pray for a safe return.However far greater religious people including priests and nuns have been harming children for decades,and visiting chapels far more often than the mccanns taboot.
raye, harrogate, uk
A young girl is abducted from her hotel room whilst her parents are out enjoying themselves. The girl is sleeping in the same room as her twin siblings. The child apparently makes no sound during the abduction and neither do her siblings, and there is no sign of a struggle. Some evidence of a contrived break-in. A busy resort, and in Portugal 9 to 10 pm is still a lively part of the day, yet the abductor(s) seem unconcerned about detection. Is this a familiar M.O. known to either UK or Portuguese police? Under such circumstances it is only logically that those close to the child, family and friends and other resort guests and employees, come under suspicion. An opportunistic snatch by some paedophile ring comes across as nonsensical.
GB, Hong Kong, Hong Kong
One more medical error...
Elizabeth Harrison, London, United Kingdom
I think the McCanns should volunteer to take a lie detector test and although it would prove nothing conclusively it might be a step towards establishing their innocence
susanna smyth, Dublin, Ireland
Were the McCanns the only ones ever to rent that vehicle? Who knows, if there was a dead body detected by the dogs it could have been from anyone else that used that car prior.
Common sense should have stopped this nonsense a long time ago. Did the police interrogate, follow up with other hotel employees & guests the same way they did with the McCanns?
Of course not.....they do not have the resources, and aren't motivated due to a conflict of interest. At this point Portugal cannot afford to have the criminal be Portuguese. International law enforcement needs to investigate IN that country.
MichelleH, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
it seems that you are falling into the Diana-affect hysteria on this one. Let the Portugese police complete their investigations before advocating declaring war on their country.
The last thing they want is to incur international condemnation for their investigations and we do not want to see their decisions forced on them by millionaires and the multimedia pulpit of which you are sadly a part. Let's show that justice can be done regardless of the size of wallet on offer.
joseph lampton, Hove, England
If Kate and Gerry were involved with the disappearance of their beautiful daughter - then I as a practising Christian will never understand why they went to see the Pope, to church, on TV and in all that time never broke down with guilt or shame. Kate and Gerry are in my prayers. We honour a loving and just God and His will will prevail in the end.
Please continue to hold your heads up high...this will all become clear in time and I hope those irresponsible media reporters will realise that the hurt and pain they are causing you was done for the sake of headlines and not your wellbeing in mind.
Brian McSweeney, Carnoustie, Angus
I totally agree with you Miriam, it does seem very impossible and totally unbelievable that the McCanns would accidentally kill their daughter and then go out of their way to make her disappearance known to the whole world! I think we should all keep looking - please God Madeleine is still out there alive, and she is back at home soon with her family where she belongs!
Rachael, Manchester, England
i think it is a disgrace that the police are blaming the parents instead of looking for the child . there is a child out there somewhere missing.
agnes sproule, down, northern ireland
I would never in a million years have washed the last thing my missing child had cuddled. Most parents would cherish the scent of their child that would be present on the toy.
No amount of dirt would persuade me to erase that scent.
I find the parents actions since the childs' disappearance very odd
Sue Norman, YORK, UNITED KINGDOM
I think that is a very interesting point about the sniffer dogs and Kate working with blood and corpses in her daily work.
The "scent" would be all over everything. That makes a lot more sense to me, because I am so confused by the evidence they are finding in a car rented 25 day later. I don't think they did it...never have, never will.
Kim, Santa Barbara, CA
What about the friend who entered the apartment last but says he did not enter the bedroom the children where in? He was the last known person in the apartment. Why also did he change his story to the police- at first saying he did not enter the apartment??
Donna, Wellington, NZ
I think that any buggy that's been held onto by a small child is likely to have hair caught up in it; it is also likely to be put into a boot of a car.
Who had this car for the previous 24 days? Someone who had traveled to the area with the intention of taking a child could have hired that same car too; why not, there can't be that many hire car firms around the area.
Maybe someone followed them out from England. Perhaps the couple made a passing comment about where they were going. People are strange and will go to great lengths to do extraordinary things, especially if they are mad with someone or are delighting in the family's pain.
The company should have records of customers and mileage.
The British police should have been more involved in this. If she has been abducted then no one can assume that it hasn't been planned here in the UK.
I pray that this child is found for the sake of the family, whatever the reason for her disappearance
ukphotolady, Midlands, UK
How sad that this has turned into a Save the McCanns campaign, and the whereabouts of a missing child seems to have slipped off the agenda. It's almost as if it is now assumed that she is dead and all efforts have to concentrate on protecting the McCanns. Yes, the pain and anguish on the faces and bodies of these parents is heartbreaking, but it could just as well be the strain and guilt of trying to hide a terrible secret as the pain of not knowing what has happened to your child.
Pamela, Kent,
Portugal you are our oldest ally. You are doing your best.
Catherine, Wiltshire, England
I think it is pointless to speculate until it is known exactly what evidence the police have. It is unprofessional, to say the least, for this information to have been leaked unless there was a motive behind it. Either the Portugese police want to be seen to be doing a good job, or they want to bluff the McCanns into admitting they killed their daughter, because they know their evidence is flimsy. Let's just hold back from behaving like we're in the Wild West and wait for a full picture, backed up by solid evidence. In the meantime if indeed, Madeleine was abducted, this would be the time now that her abductor may have cause to relax. This is when police should be extra vigilent to see if they make a move.
Jane, Plymouth, UK
Everybody is innocent until the proofs claim the opposite. Don´t forget it.
MarÃa, Madrid, Spain
I'm just very sad that a small minority of Portugeuse and British citizens have come to start slating each other and cast abuse to each other. I'm a Brit ( and a proud one at that) but I am getting sick of some of my fellow citizens who are quick to slate the Portugeuse police - can you honestly say our force is any better? I can't.
None if us know what has happened to this beautiful wee girl and if her parents are guilty or not. I personally find it difficult to believe they are and if they are innocent then the way they have been treated is utterly disgusting.
Let's just all pray that wee Maddie is found safe and well and reunited with her family at last.
Amie , Aberdeenshire, Scotland
India Knight's well-balanced article of 16 September is nullified by its presentation and overacrching claim of responsible British press reporting. I don't want to read selected and clearly highlighted 'vitriolic rants of the online rabble' - suffice it to say they exist. And to blame the public for the media hysteria whilst in the same breath reporting that The Sunday Times has conducted its own 'Are the McCanns Guilty' poll is not only a reprehenisble act in itself but a contradiction of the sentiment of the article. Shame on you.
sarah napier , huddersfield , england
How on earth, in a case as public as this, do people think that the McCann's hid the body of their daughter and then transfered it at least 25 days later? That's crazy - surely, they're the most famous faces in Pria de Luz at the moment - surely, they don't have any peace and privacy from the eyes of reporters?
Jo, Stafford, England
There is no proof of what has happened to Madeline. People behave differently when faced with loss outward behaviour tells us nothing.
What has happened is so sad, lost or dead a child has been badly hurt. Children are without their sister.
It takes patience to wait and see and then face what ever the truth is but it would be the kindest thing to do?
Siobhan, West Yorkshire, UK
It seems that whenever someone dies in mysterious circumstances and no quick answer is found, the media and law enforcement are quick to pin blame on the person or people closest to the tragedy. Lindy Chamberlain, Joanne Lees and Sally Clark are examples of this, and all were exonerated of any wrongdoing. DNA evidence on its own means little and without other concrete evidence the McCanns should not have their grief worsened by these terrible accusations
Emma, Sydney, Australia
Since the McCanns are both Doctors they can reasonably be expected to know safe seadtive dosages and are therefore unlikely to have overdosed their child. Similarly they can be reasonably expected to know that the sedative residues would stay in the hair of the twins and of Madeline and are therefore unilkely to deny sedating them if their is so much evidence that can disprove them
Colin Brewer, Eastbourne, East Susse
Are the McCanns willing to undergo a lie detector test. Surely this would be a useful step forward in determining the truth?
Alan Davies, Birmingham,
At last an impartial report of the facts we know. Everything else that comes in all media is pure speculation, jeoparding the investigation.
I should add , and it was already said in tv by a PJ inspector who went to the apartement after they were called ,is that Kate McCann called the Sky TV 45 minutes before she called the police! Why? It doesn't make sense!
I trust our PJ and I am certain that , along with the British police, they are doing their best to solve this case, but things take time.
Maria, Lisbon, Portugal
I'm writing this as a reader from Germany. We also feel very emotional about Maddie's disapperance here. In my oppinion the portugese police is not able to solve this case. THis is a southern country with a totally different culture in police work. Why is the british police not always involved in this case? I don't understand that! If the british police holds back because of political correctness, they don't do their duty.
Besides all, I can't believe that the McCanns are guilty.
Barbara Müller, Munich, Germany
Red Flag - Washed the Cuddle Cat toy. If that's the memory of your missing daughter, it's sacred. No grieving parent would wash it. This is a strange case.
Name Withheld, Reston, US
First of all I wish that the Mcann's were inocent and that Madeleine is alive !!!!
Portuguese police are doing their very best with this case , and are working together with the English police , do not forget about that !
I really find something odd - since the Mcann have been turned suspects who has been searching for Madaleine.........
Lizza , Estoril, Portugal
The facts as the police would have us believe are that Madeleine died in her apartment between 6 and 8pm on May 3. The latest suggestion is that she was given an overdose of sedatives by her mother. The first question is would these sedatives have killed her in such a short time? Then her parents hid her body for a minimum of 25 days with access only to a holiday apartment and the whole world watching their every move, mainly brought about by thier own actions to publish their daughter's disappearance. So the second question is why didn't anyone notice the awful smell which would have pervaded the whole complex? Then still under constant scrutiny and after having successfully concealed the body for nearly a month, they move it in the hire car. So the third question must be why bother?
I think everyone (including the Portuguese police) should stop lambasting the McCanns and carry on looking for this little girl. She must be somewhere and could well be alive.
Miriam Oppenheim, Madrid, Spain
Gerry and Kate- You both have my full support until the very end.I juxt hope and pray that you's were not involved in little maddie's killing.I would be so mad at you's as so would the whole world.I hope ye are innocent and ye have my support at the moment as the saying goes- innocent until proven guilty!
Ger Connolly, Irelanf, Ireland
Were the Mc Canns not being followed day and night by reporters from all over the world after the disappearane of Madeline? Wouldn`t this make the moving of a body 25 days after her disapperance some what difficult or even impossibe?
Rebecca, Malaga, Spain
'[ Portuguese police admit that they cannot] prove that Madeleine was intentionally killed.'
May I correct the above report?
The Portuguese police cannot prove that Madeleine is dead.
Philip Skalla, London, England
I don't know how anyone can say 'the McCann's are innocent' if they don't actually know them. There seems to be enough evidence to suggest that maybe they did play a part in Maddie's disappearance and possible death. The key points as shown above certainly are pointing towards the McCann's. I just hope, for Maddie's sake, that guilt is proven and to the correct offender.
Jamie, Brighton,
The parents have been framed by Portugese police and the real gyilty.Strenght for the Gerry and Kate,please keep going on and don`t give up on this pressure!I`ll prayer for you,and Madeline.
Pia, Turku, Finland
It is difficult to understand how so much "evidence" has been found NOW in the van which was only hired 25 days after the girl disappeared. Surely the parents would not have dared to move her after bringing so much attention to the case and it defies belief that they could have hired the very same van which was used by the abdctors on that awful night. Have the previous users been traced and cleared ??
It doesseem a long time for the police to realise that the building or excavation works nearby would have made an ideal dumping spot and worth a close search.
R.J.Mayson, Eastbourne, E.Sussex, England
I was devasted when I saw this sweet little girl on the news that was missing. I was shocked when the Portuguese police suspected the parents. It is their right and duty to check everyone out, but why was everything done so late. That room should have been sealed and CSI unit called in to check it immediately to gather all the evidence, not 4 months later. I really want to know who had access to that car prior to them hiring it. Has the police ever checked that out? Everyone just gets called a suspect but they should state facts and not leave the whole world wondering why they didn't seal off the town, room etc. I for one am constantly watching sky news to see what has happened. I have 3 children myself, and it has torn my heart to see this little girl who has disappeared and no-one can find - not even a body if she is dead. Think of all the family.
Natali Giannakakis, Johannesburg, South Africa
With a Find Madeleine Fund of a million pounds at their disposal, why haven't the McCanns hired the best possible private investigators to find out the truth and to hunt for their child? I have read no information about the McCanns prior to their holiday in Portugal. Have any investigative reporters researched their background? Did Madeleine attend nursery school? If so, what are her teachers' impressions of the family?
Dell Foster, Exeter, England
I cannot believe the McCanns can hide Madeline for 25 days from the biggest search in the history of Portugal, and then transport her in a car hired later. Surely they were under survelience not only of the Police but the media! It's impossible.
Roger Prowse, Purley, UK
The whole case is strange. I expect, as in the Fred West case, much more will be revealed a long time after.
Has anyone thought to check out the McCann's and their work with their patients, just in case.
Andrew, London, UK
The parents are either innocent or not innocent. If they are not innocent they are either rational or not rational. Based upon the information the assumption of rationality is easy to accept. Then it would be likely that they would leave Portugal at the most rational moment in time. This moment would definitely have been just after visiting the Pope and just before the peak of the Summer Holidays . Instead they stayed for weeks longer. It would not be rationional to extend their campaign so long if they were not innocent, If they are innocent the situation is that portuguese police can either reliable or not reliable. There is considerable evidence that the later option is at least likely. If the police is reliable, however, and the parents are not innocent the situation is that the real guilty person has no contact or does have contact to the parents or their car and may have left traces of the girl in this way in the car. Truth is not always simple
Peter Roelofsma, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
An intriguing although excellent summary. It has been good to read a review of the evidence which does not create a situation for a witch hunt.
Mikey Kelk, Northampton,
well, I guess nothing makes sense right now!
It's useless to attack the couple or the Portuguese people as everything we know is speculation...
And one thing is for sure: nobody will be convicted without proof here...
Our legal system maybe complex, slow, full of inefficiency but it's not dirty.
Diogo, Porto, Portugal
The Mccann are not accused for now... they are just "arguidos". I understand it's hard for you to understand the arguido concept but it's the way it works here!
If there is not enough evidence to accuse them they will NOT be accused and will NOT be on trial.
So, stop saying the police sucks... they are just doing their job!
If they have evidence do you really think they should look the other way?!
I STILL BELIEVE MADELEINE IS ALIVE. MY THOUGHTS GO TO HER
Diogo, Porto, Portugal
They are both innocent. Nobody however clever they maybe could have kept the pretence up for so long, had they committed such a terrible act.
Charles, Folkestone,
lets hope this is sorted quickly.
veronica, london, UK
Who had the hire car before them??
I feel sorry for the twins - lets hope they are looked after by grandparents as the parents will go back to Portugal and they shouln't go. Not sure either way but botch job by police...
Cat, London, England
Under British law all parents have a 'Duty of care' to their children whatever country they are in, it is expected that the McCann's other 2 children will now be on the 'At risk register' for children who have been mistreated; they were left alone. The McCanns are lucky that they were not arrested when they returned to the UK for leaving 3 under 5's alone. There plan to 'mind' them from the restaurant has proved not to work.
Lorna, Wokingham, England
Give them both a lie-detector test
N.Riley, Runcorn, England
For the sake of argument, if these parents are totally innocent then this is the most horrendous nightmare that any parent could possibly go through. First they have to deal with the disappearance of a child and subsequently the finger of suspicion. My biggest fear is that all the evidence against them is going to be found to be conclusive. And all this time are the police actually still looking for Madeleine? I would sincerely hope so.
Jane, Amsterdam, Netherlands
I think that people should be very careful what they say. Put yourselves in the McCanns' shoes and how will you feel later on when the truth comes out if you have got it wrong!
Lynne Khan, Westcliff on Sea, U.K
Does anyone know why the police searched the rental car in the first place? I mean the car they were driving at the time of the disappearance I can understand, but unless they had some specific intelligence or evidence I can not understand why they would have searched the car of some one who was not a suspect.
Andrew Hodge, London,
I believe the case should be handed to the British Police to run a paralel investigation.
I don't know if the McCanns are guilty or not and it's not my place to say, but i am sure that i would have reacted alot more passionately if it was my daughter.
The parents of the boy who was shot a few weeks ago Rhys Jones, now i'm sorry but that's how parents react.
I just hope that it is the shock of everything going on or that they work for the medical proffession which has made them be cold throughout.
I feel for Mrs McCann and since she's a staunch Catholic then they are supposed to abide by the commandments. I am holding onto the belief that Madeline is alive until they can prove different.
Keep looking for Maddie!
jacqui, wembdon, somerset
I am pleased to see that there is a significant part of the international community, who have not let themselves be manipulated by the tabloids rambling about this case.
Such a tragedy can only raise strong emotions and anger in any one of us. But it is beyond comprehension the way some people jump into conclusions so quickly, without strong evidence. I cannot understand why the portuguese police is beign kicked around because they did not charge anyone yet with either murder or child abduction. As someone earlier wrote, how many cases are there unsolved in so many countries, including Britain.
Let the police take its time. Given the high scrutinity it is under, I would be very surprised if they would name Maddie's parents as suspects, without having strong evidences supporting that. They might turn out (or not) to be misleading evidences. But why did the Mccan couple not help the police further, to clarify the suspictions, and answer all questions they were asked?
Eduardo, Lisbon,
i find it impossible to believe that the parents have played a part in this, but they need to be investigated, if nothing else to eliminate them from the enquiries, there are questions needing to be answered, the mccanns should have the opportunity to answer. i dont believe that the portugese police are trying to frame the couple, its far too big a case for them to think for a second they'd get away with it, to think that there would be that many people involved in a conspiracy involving a missing child is unthinkable.
sue, caernarfon, gwynedd
I've read enough to believe that the media are desperately sick, sader still is the fact that some people seem to thrive on this morbid speculation. These people are inocent untill there is absolute proof of their guilt. When this is all over and if the McCanns are found to be completely innocent their lives are totally ruined and shattered anyway. The media will just crawl away and so it all again.
Ani Hunter, Aldershot, Hampshire
All this speculation about what happened to Madeleine is just our desperation to have answers, but who do we think we are?if you read a variety of newspapers, as I do, you will see from the many variations of the facts reported i.e appartment 40, 70 , 100 , 80 yards from restaurant...just how fallible journalists are-just like the rest of us.
The media is only made up of humans, just like the police force.
The one clear fact is that it wasn't possible ,for whatever reason, for procedures to be put in place to provide clues about the disappearance of Madeliene in the first minutes and hours and now, without such evidence, attempts are being made by the media and the police to prove their various theories. But that is what they remain-just theories at the moment. Until there is a Eureka moment, an inarguable, absolutely concrete 100% accurate piece of evidence to show what happened none of us will know.
I wonder what madeleine would want to say about this?
'please find me?' mayb?
Lynda, tonbridge, uk
If there is the remotest possibility or suspicion that Gerry and/or Kate McCann are in any way connected to or responsible for Madeleine's disappearance then it is entirely correct that they should be investigated.
ans if ANYONE thinks so, then they must speak up, 'to sin by silence when we should speak out, makes cowards out of men...'
Phil Carsley, Middlesbrough, UK
I had one big question which I have not seen addressed anywhere in the media except by Claire of Brighton who asks the same question in the comments here: Who had possession & use of the rental vehicle during the period of time since Maddy went missing and the date her parents were handed the keys to this rental car????
Ensi, Anaheim, USA
I truly feel heart sorry for little maddie. I only pray she is not suffering and that the people responsible are brought to justice soon. Kate always appeared too calm for someone going through the hell of losing a child like that. If she is responsible she should put that little girl at peace and then spend her life trying to make her own oeace with god.
yvonne selfridge, fife, scotland
I don't know what to believe but I am sure Portuguese Police are doing their best, as I think British does.
There are many inconsistencies in all theories presented, ie: if McCanns have something to do with their daughter's death, why do they make a show all over the world? It is not a normal behaviour. On the other hand, if police believe that they are involved in Maddie's dissappearance or death, I think this is a serious accusation to formulate without proofs. They may have a conclusive proof. Who is right? The case is very strange.
Poor child...
Marta, Madrid, Spain
im so confused now with all this speculation. i hope that madeline turns up so everyone can have closer. when i first saw kate mccann on tv she looked like a broken woman. But as the days went by i noticed the change of earrings in each picture. no this doesnt mean she was involved but i remember thinking that ,that would be the last thing to cross my mind. As most mothers would my hair would stay unwashed stuff the makeup jewellery or even change of clothes. I would be kicking doors down and lifting draincovers.
I dont think theyve done anything to Madeline as why didnt the come home and continue to "search" from here. Why make this media circus - only to keep madeline in the pubic eye when things started to die down in the press here they upped the publicity.
There is a true story (film) "my first name is Steven" when he got to 17 and had to abduct a younger boy for his "father" he then rememebered his abduction
God forgive them if they are guilty
God forgive us if theyre not
sophie, uk,
'They've taken her' is the only way to express that an unknown third party or parties is/are involved. We use 'they' in English because we don't have a neutral word to describe one or more persons whose sex(es) we do not know. We would find it odd if 'He/she has taken her' had been cried out - indicating that the person was known. Another example of how parts of the press have been all too keen to feed the imaginations of the public. Perhaps instead of entertaining wilder and wilder conspiracy theories the public should accept the really unpalatable truth - that this case is deeply distressing to all and we, as a public, want closure in any form.
Tracey, Swansea,
A lie detector test proves nothing... It has been demonstrated that it can be deceived, by controlling the respiration and stress... By what they've been through until now, controlling stress must not be hard... The Policia Judiciaria has been considered the best criminal police in the world last year, so I trust their judgment...
F Mendes, Obidos, Portugal
The Portuguese Police have been working with the British Police and any information has been shared. In the case a of a missing child every Police Force around the world will do their best to solve the case. It is true that this type of case is rare in Portugal and with such high media attention the police are doing all they can to solve the case. The Police need to question the parents and as an FBI agent on CNN mentioned most cases of children under 5 gone missing is a result of death by accident by the parents. The Police are doing their job and are getting help from other Police forces, it would be unfair to bad mouth the Portuguese Police. Portugal is still a very safe and friendly place to visit as many from around the world find each year. We all want this case resolved and no one wants to blame the parents. Only justice and faith will solve this case.
Alex, Hamilton, Canada
I just hope it in't true. If it is, heaven help anyone in a similar situation...... they will never be believed.
Bill Beetham, Moscow, Russia
I would find it strange if the parents had indeed been able to be enjoying themselves, having dinner and wine with their friends, knowing that one of their children had died only hours before. I just cannot see how anybody would be able to pretend to be OK, even if they had intentionally killed their child.
Vera, London, United Kingrdom
the hair could have been xfer by a hairbrush that all the family use?? i know when i was young we had one hairbrush between my family. They did use this hire car to transport their belongings did they not??
m.lord, manchester, u.k
I have wondered from the start of this case how Madeleine's mother was able to leave her two other children in the creche with relative strangers whilst thinking that the abductor was potentially still around. My instinct as a mother would be to protect them from any further danger. Was she aware that there was no danger ?
Jo, Birmingham,
As Patricia said, for the first time I read a clear and impartial view on the case in British media. This story disturbs everybody, so I understand some criticism about the Portuguese investigation.
Remember, the Portuguese police are simply doing their job under intense media scrutiny and criticism. Let me remember that there are some British police working with the Portuguese authorities on this investigation, and there is a full cooperation among detectives. This investigation is a nightmare for us, no one would like a story like that, but I think the work must be done for….Madeleine.
Henrique, Lisboa, Portugal
Although I feel desperately sorry for little Maddy, this saga is turning into a classic Agatha Christie. Either the Portuguese police are trying to frame the family or the McCanns are telling a pack of lies. My wife, who reads a lot of detective novels, thinks it possible that Maddy was sedated so the parents could enjoy their evening undisturbed and subsequently suffered a severe allergic reaction. When her mother returned and discovered her lifeless body, she panicked and hid the evidence. Personally, I really hope that the parents are innocent but it will be fascinating to see how it all plays out.
Simon R. Gladdish, Swansea, Wales
who had the hire car in the period before the Family hired it?
SEAN SWAN, washington, usa
A good generalised summary of events. One of the few good, unbiased articles I have read on the subject. Everyone needs to stop speculating ether way and let the Police get on with it.
But there is always suspicion where overly religious people are concerned. With our own Azaria Chamberalin case, it was believed the name Azaria meant a sacrifice to god. Any fanatacism is always a worry.
Plus if a part time doctor working one day a week, has contact with 6 dead bodies in one week. I would suggest she was not a very good doctor. Were toxicolgy tests done on THEM.
kate ingleton, Perth, Western Australia
I do not believe for one second that the Portuguese Police are trying to frame the McCanns. If they were going to frame anyone they had a far easier target in Mr Murat. He has never enjoyed the support of most of the press and public that the McCanns have.
If the Portuguese Police believe they have enough evidence to go to court, then the guilt or innocence of the McCanns will be established there. Perhaps it would be a good idea to wait for that and stop all the speculation.
The real victim in this case is Madeleine and the truth of what happened to that lost little girl is the only thing that matters.
Anna, Peterborough, UK
To Philip Brennan, Piscataway, New Jersey, who said..."This is reminiscent of John and Patsy Ramsey
who were wrongly 'suspected' of killing Jon Benet". As the Jon Benet Ramsay case has NOT been solved, and the mother has since died, there is no proof that suspicion of the parents was "Wrong". Police closed the file. They only do that when they know who it was but dont have the evidence to convict them.
kate ingleton, Perth, Western Australia
A lie detector test is no more reliable than tossing a coin or reading tea leaves.
Brian, cape Town, South Africa
To be honest it is really sad and terrorific situation. I believe Mrs Mc cann killed her own daughter. And some people was involved in this as Russell O'brien who is a doctor as well and came back half a hour after Madeleine's has reported missing.
Second i believe Mrs Mc Cann was cleaning the Madeleine's Cuddle cat because was a evidency in there...a normal mum try to keep the baby smelling.Why was Blood in the hire car.? the police discover this after 25 days, right but is not an accident that in one case like that the car had blood and still they was driving to go to excursions and visiting friends!!! i believe the police must to make an investigation about every single place they visited with the car hire...Why after the Portuguese Police discover the blood and other implication in the case, they go back to Uk instead of hive all they support in the case and give the face??? why they contracted the Pinochet Lawyer?are they thinking he will give the freedom to them? only god knows
Priscilla, London/, UK
Does anyone remember Lindy Chamberlain.Wrongly convicted of the murder of her baby Azaria? Convicted on suspect forensic evidence and public opinion, (no body has ever been found)
She was eventually pardoned, after her life and the life of her children was ruined.
this is another beat up of speculation and innuendo....dangerously it can become fact in peoples minds.
Wait for the evidence!
Sharon Everist, Cairns, Queensland
Agree with Eileen England. In South Korea there was a toddler missing about 6 years ago. Parents were dining with friends in a restaurant and their children were playing outside garden in front of the restaurant. The young girl was just missing in a minute during the play. Nationwide search continued for months and had no clue. Some months later when the owner of the restaurant opened the wobbling, unsafe manhole of the sanitation to discharge, found the body of the poor girl inside. Hundreds of police did not even opened and examined the manhole, where she played nearby and missed step down into in a second. Poltuguese police must search again nearby the hotel in detail.
rex, South Korea,
We are expected to believe that Kate McCann accidentally killed her daughter, either by an overdose or by slapping her too hard, then calmly went to a restaurant to have a few drinks?
Malcolm McLean, Bradford, UK
I think it is pointless to speculate until it is known exactly what evidence the police have. It is unprofessional, to say the least, for this information to have been leaked unless there was a motive behind it. Either the Portugese police want to be seen to be doing a good job, or they want to bluff the McCanns into admitting they killed their daughter, because they know their evidence is flimsy. Let's just hold back from behaving like we're in the Wild West and wait for a full picture, backed up by solid evidence. In the meantime if indeed, Madeleine was abducted, this would be the time now that her abductor may have cause to relax. This is when police should be extra vigilant to see if they make a move.
Jane, Plymouth, UK
It's very hard to know what to believe. If the Mc Cann's have killed their beautiful daughter I believe as the papers and news report said; it was accidental. But on the other hand why would they blatenly visit Rome to see the pope and visit high profile figures like George Bush, Tony Blair and continue to travel round Europe in the search for her. The whole case is inconcievable. Where ever Maddie may be I hope God is looking after her.
Mother of two,
fiona mc cormack, Drogheda, Ireland
The McCanns, especially Kate, are devout Catholics. If they had been guilty of such serious wrongdoing they would be unable to participate in Mass unless they had confessed their guilt to a priest and been granted absolution. Surely their strong faith would not have allowed them to meet the Pope and ask for his blessing and prayers if they knew that Madeleine was dead by their hands. Is it known what they said to the Pope and how he replied?
Dell Foster, Exeter, England
Has anyone considered the possibility that a third party / abductor/ murderer placed the dna evidence in the rental car to frame the Mc Canns?
Ken, Dublin, Ireland
We must wait and see.The Portuguese Police are not the lousy corp that the britons pretend to be.
The case is very complicated even in Britain, so be a little more humble and think everything its possible.
ptp
Pedro da Cunha, Lisboa, Portugal
Having lost a child myself in tragic circumstances, it is hard to watch what has been happening over the past months since Madeline went missing.
All I would ask people is to remember that there is a little girl still missing. Our thoughts and actions should be concentrated on this. I dont know if her parents are innocent or guilty of either her abduction or death. None of us, no matter whether experts or not, have the answers as to this. Please let us remember that people are presumed innocent until proven otherwise. If innocent, Madelines parents are being subjected to trial by media in what is supposed to be a democracy where our human rights should always be paramount. I cannot even begin to imagine how they must be feeling in this case. Let the courts do their job, and lets not try them in the media because that is what has been happening in the past week.
Jacqueline Chapman, Haslemere , UK
Of all the papers I must say The Times seems to have the most informed and intelligent coverage of this case. Having read this particular summary I am convinced that this is not an abduction case.
Matthew Duckworth, London,
Could you just please put your prejudice away?
Yes, we in Portugal are a little behind in some subjects. A small example: our police really needs a good public relations expert.
And we may be a little messy, but we live in 21st century, too. And if you look closer, a lot of what's been credited to the portuguese police, comes, after all, from anonym sources.
Teresa, Lisboa, Portugal
The idea that the McCanns killed thier daughter, were able to put on a false show of unbelievably consuming grief, hide their daughter's body during one of the biggest police searches in Portuguese history and dispose of it under the watch of the world's media, whom they had encouraged to help with the case, is absolutley ridiculous. Yes stastics show that a high number of child murders are committed by people who knew them but the statistics tell us nothing under these extraordinary circumstances. Both the world's press and public are far to quick to cast suspicion and seem to engage their suspicious minds alot more readily than they draw on their human empathy and common sense. Such people are making this terrible ordeal even worse for the McCanns.
Jo-ann Hodgson, Brighton, England
It´s not because someone is very kind or the story is very sad that it´s not guilty.
What happened was a crime (kidnap or murder), it´s not because of our feels that someone is guilty or not.
The pressure against the investigation and the media circus is so strong that it´s very hard to understand the case.
From the long story of investigations I do believe in portuguese police "PJ", although some "chauvinism" and emotional interpretation.
Kate and Gerry are not guiltys now, they are "arguidos" (suspects), because some evidences indicate that (and of course most of the evidences are not public, because of the portuguese "segredo da justiça" - law´s secret to protect investigation).
If I were the Maddie´s parents I would put in the same level the kidnap and the murder.
If I was not guilty and accused, I would feel very sorrow (anyone can imagine...), but in any moment I would have problems to defend myself and tell the truth.
Luis Sottomayor, Oporto, Oportugal
LEAVE THEM ALONE and stop this witch-hunt. Instead people should focus on finding Madeline, whether dead or alive, and never give up on the campaign to bring her home to her family
How soon the mood of the european people turn fuelled by the media, both in Portugal and England.!!
I hope and pray the child will be found and returned safely to her family soon so the McCann family do not have have to endure any more of this awful nightmare existence.
mary rogers, Athlone, Ireland.
I've been living in England for two years, and your police is not much better. All the kids murder in South London? This not happens in Portugal.
It's very stupid to say Portugal has a 3rd world police force or that you are too scare to go to Portugal because they can accuse you of something. Something like what?
Why? Because the way portuguese police carry investigations is different than the english?
Just open your mind, and try to understand how other countries work.
And, as I read "seriousness of the process has been misunderstood and exaggerated by cultural and language differences", try to learn a bit about a country and its language. Do not expect going to Portugal and portuguese speak in english; they speak Portuguese because they live in Portugal.
If you go to Italy they will speak in Italian, and their laws will be different as well.
Judit, Tarragona, Spain
"The reason the child hasn't been found is because the police did not know how to respond when the child was first reported missing. No Amber Alert in Portugal" - Cgertk, Troy, MI, USA
Probably and understandable circumstance, considering that missing/kidnapped children is not nearly as big a problem in Portugal as it is in the US.
Pete, Cov,
Who had the car before the McCann's? Maybe the DNA was already there...
Carol, Bern, Switzerland
I know what it is like to be falsely accused and questioned by police for an appaling child abuse crime I did not commit. I lost my job, my marraige, my home, so called friends and worse, access to my beautiful children. Arrested, identified as a suspect, locked up in a cell and treated like a witch in Salem in the 17th Century - certain death. The police had statements but in the end the truth came out. I was not this criminal they were trying so hard to label. A real living nightmare. Took so long to unravel too. Facts do not necessarliy make ultimate truth. The McCanns now find themselves guilty until proven innocent . I would have been the first to accuse them but after what happened to me I now believe in due process. The mob is lethal and we are so eager to label and be self righteous about others even when there are certain "facts"! What kept me going was constant and honest prayer. Let us all keep calm now. Think of their children at least, and pray for Madeline.
Joseph, London, UK
I don't if the parents are innocent or not. I just can't understand who could kill such a pretty and cute child...She was so gifted. why?why?why? I am just shocked.
Chrysa, Heraklion, Greece
If the child were black, brown or otherwise *colored* the ghoulish infatuation with her disappearance would itself disappear. Perhaps observers of the American media will recall the fatuous obsession with the Natalee Holloway case: a textbook lesson in wrangling a few shekels out of the advertisers, keeping the downtrodden white folk terrified for the safety of their children, and diverting attention to the poor unfortunate children in every other part of the world dying by the thousands from disease, war and privation.
Carlson McCree, Lowell, MA, US
Kate and Gerry, I don't know where or how to contact you so I will do it here. I know deep in my bones that you would never harm your children. I can see it in your tortured faces and in the way you are trying to make a desperate search for your lovely daughter. Keep nagging to keep that search going as Madeleine is the important one. And when she is found it will be time to look into the way this has all been handled by the police. God give you some peace and strength.
Liz, Sussex, UK
IM happy at last that the portugeas police are pulling their weight, seeming it has taken them so long to pull their finger out their ass. madelliene mcann has been missing for months and still there is not enough evidence to prove someone as her killer. who ever has tooken/killed her is a cruel person like look how gorgeouse she is shes a little girl who dont deseve this cruelty. so far me and all my friends think that this has something to do with her mum because of the way she acts and the way she goes on. but all i am saying is if it does have something to do with her mum she is well cruel because that is her little girl and still she wants to kill her daughter that is sick. if evidence proves that she killed her daughter she should be locked up and the police should chuck away the key and when she dies the only place she should go to is HELL.
JESSICA, WHALES,
john morrison, kirkcaldy, uk asks...
have the police spoke (sic) to the local priest that the mc canns saw every day did they have confessions... Wouldnt do any good John, Priests can NOT divulge anything made during Confessions, EVEN if it relates to a murder.
kate ingleton, Perth, Western Australia
I sincerely hope Maddie is alive and that whoever took her is caught. The parents seem unlikely for reasons many have already stated. If the perpetrators are discovered, let's hope they're sent to some god forsaken place made to regret their actions.
Lets Not put them in a british prison where they will have better accomodation than our troops and be protected by the Prison Service in case of any in-mates wishing to take matters into their own hands. Us hard working tax payers don't want to have to pay for their law suits as well as their rehabilitation... do we?
Racheal, Swindon, Wiltshire
In a relatively small resort it would be normal that the same hire car would be used by more than one visitor to the Ocean Club (indeed they may have cars espcecially for the club that they don't mind getting seawater and sand in etc,) so it is possible that the car had been used by the perpetrator of the crime before the Mcanns hired it.
I don't purport to be a detective, that's why I leave it to the experts, but it seems the Portugese police are responding to a world baying for blood by making the Mccanns scapegoats.
Ingrid Korsan, Gateshead , UK
they are suffering enough with amissing child now accused of being involved in the case they have my support let them be
michelle, birmingham, england
I feel strongly that the parents did not kill their little girl, however I don't think it fair to start to condemn the portugeuse police - let them complete this sad case in their own way as this did happen in their country! I think they have been very professional - the difference in culture, language and law confuses this case terribly - we all desperately want Maddie to be alive which is now doubtful by the sounds of the DNA that has been found in the car. We all want Kate and Gerry to be found innocent in the disappearance of their little girl - there will be an outcome - hopefully soon and to the justice of the parents and the police!
Tracy Santos, Newbury, Berkshire
"....I've seen two-year-olds sleep through a 40th birthday party complete with loud music, voices and laughter..."
At 7:00pm???
Rita, Lisboa, Portugal
The McGanns have at best been very foolish - that doesn't deserve the hatred of all but they are not innocent.
Would there be the unrestrained sympathy of the world if Maddy had been killed in a fire, killed from playing with a knife in the kitchen of the flat, left in a car an suffocated. They overplayed their victim status at the start and now as the wheel turns they are at risk of being excessively hated - as we sow so shall we reap.
They are flawed - as we all are.
I find that I hope they did over-sedate Maddy as it is probably the best of the realistic options of what has happened to her - the only true innocent in this very sorry case.
Benjamin, Gloucester,
The Press speculation in this case seems to me to be getting completely out of hand . No self respecting responsible investigator would leak evidence or lines of enquiry,still less comment on their evidential value. What happened or didnt happen to this unfortunate little girl should the subject of
very circumspect comment not the ramblings of hacks who
work outside the rules of evidence and who are only journalists,not law enforcement professionals.Everything at the moment in the public domain is opinion only.We have to wait quite rightly until the Portuguese Police present their findings in the proper forum.
janbolsover, wirral, england
Quoting "... they should do a lie detector test...". Yes, but I feel they are guilty.
Quoting "... If I had killed my daughter ..." You would do anything to not loose your remaining two children, right?
Quoting "...I fail to see how an army of sniffer dogs, police and other searchers could fail to find a body..." They were not looking for a dead body, remember?
Artur M, Lisboa, Portugal
The police should be left to do their job - uninterrupted and uninfluenced by "lobby" opinion. We don't know the evidence in detail and it's pointless speculating. I fear the investigation could be derailed, over-influenced or tainted by the publicity campaign set in train when Madelaine went missing . It's fine and right that friends and associates of the McCann's air their opinions but once done they should shut up until the charges are laid (if any ever are laid). If charges are laid then the McCann's will have the chance to show their innocence in court . If the police have got it wrong then their case will fail.
Julian, Finchampstead, UK
The media have shown a lot of interest in hair samples found in the hire car rented by Madeleine's parents. This was 2 weeks after her disappearance. Have the police checked any other hire cars rented by the same company which I assume was cleaned on returned by the same cleaners and same vacuum cleaners? It would be plausible that DNA could easily be transferred by many things including many people renting the cars. I would bet that DNA from all recent people associated with the hire cars including the rental company's staff, drivers, cleaners etc would be found scattered on many cars. The police should check the rental company's vacuum cleaner and other cars not rented by Madeleine's parents. Also - the media should not be too quick to jump to conclusions.
Alan Payne, Markfield, UK
Up to this point the Portugueses are only guessing and just trying to force a confession by means of a fishing expedition.
Francisco, Winter Haven, Florida, USA
Dear Sir/Madam
With regard to Mrs McCann's alleged remark "They've taken her", I wonder if the apparent oddness of this comment might be put down to differing idiomatic usages in English and Portuguese. Portuguese speakers tend to avoid linguistic contructions containing the passive voice; the Portuguese language possesses various means to structure phrases where an agent is unkown or irrelevant, one of which is the use of the third person plural without any specific or personal reference. So, "She's been taken" would normally be rendered in Portuguese as "They've taken her".
Yours faithfully,
Nick Bartlett
Nick, Madrid, Spain
Only one thing I find difficult to comprehend. Anyone who had mysteriously lost a child would just want to lock themselves in a dark room next to a phone and wait for some good news. Not the McCanns. They have been seeking public attention, looking quite positive and giving much attention to their dress and appearance; playing some kind of martyr role.
Sorry if I upset some of you but I cannot seem to notice any kind of grief. The whole circus reminds me of so many cases where people have made public appeals on camera to find their loved ones only to be later charged with being involved in their disappearance.
David, London, UK
If the DNA evidence is soimportant PLEASE tell us who had the car 25 days earlier; prove where the car has been for every kilometre; demonstrate that the car was or was not hired out to people (who may have been the real abductors) and then given to the McCanns in purpose to confuse the trail. Of course people may continue to lie and try and frame the McCanns but it would be great to see who had the car the night and days that Maddie went missing.
Stop taking comments from a mother out of context.... the poor woman clearly is in great control under stressful situations ... taking random comments from her diary and trying to make it sound she is having a breakdown is plain evil... stop it! She loves her kids and the best place for her is with them now.
Put everyone involved on a lie detector test. I'm sure you'll see that there are cover-ups going on left right and centre... people with keys to appartments who shouldn't have them; people ensuring Portugal is a kidnapers paradise.
s. george, Adelaide,
Hasn't anyone told the Portuguese police that in English we say "they" as a singular as well as plural term. eg I wonder who rang while we were out? I hope THEY were not needing urgent assistance.
Bruce, Bolton, UK
I'm disgusted with the police making Gerry & Kate suspects. It's an a definite scape-goat because they have been too laid back and made so many blunders so far. Those parents are going through hell - it's obvious to see, just because they haven't broke down in front of cameras, screamed or shouted doesn't mean they aren't broken people. That little girl was taken by someone. A witness said she saw a man carrying a child in pyjamas same as Maddies, intruders in apartment above a few weeks before. This resort is well known as a family place, someone wanted to take a child and has got one. The police, investigators need to put energies into finding Madeleine, not spending time looking into Gerry & Kate, they aren't going anywhere.
Kim, Manchester, UK
Kim Reed, Manchester, UK
Like SOME of you say, Portuguese Police sucks, and they are waiting some of you English genious to tell them how to do their work. You are the best ones and that's why you have fog in your eyes and we have sun in our lifes. Shame on you. You have much more unsolved cases like this in you country than we do.
I hope that the parents are innocent but I just don't know and neither do you.
Carlos, Porto, Portugal
I think Kate and Gerry are being framed. They have not killed there daughter. Us Brits should stand by them and bycott Portugol. This is outrages. Dont you think they have gone through enough with out this rubbish being printed. Please leave them alone. Its been a media circus from start to finish and this is not the end. Lets think of Madeline thats what we should be thinking about. FINDING MADELINE. Not reading all of this rubbish thats being printed about Kate and Gerry.
My thoughts are with the family.
Sandra Cooper, Manchester, England
A large amount of hair...
If it's really true... The McCann's will have to explain it. To millions of people...
If it's not true...
Portuguese police and justice will have to pay for it. Millons of euros...
Let's wait the truth... it will come fast; and complete !
Francisco, Madrid, Spain
I quite agree with Sandra LA USA.
I really feel for the McCanns at this moment in time, not only do they have a missing daughter but they have police and press continuosly picking at them.
Most of the "evidence" I have read about has not proved that 1. they had anything to do with the disappearence of their daughter and 2. That their daughter is dead. Where has all the murder stuff come from??? So they found some hair that doesn't prove the girl has passed on.
I don't see how the McCanns would have managed to do anything with regaurds to stashing a body then moving it etc with press continuosly following and photographing them. Surely if they had done such a horrid thing the press would have caught them in the act!!
My hopes and wishes go out to the family that Madeleine gets found safe and well.
Carla, Kent, UK
in portugal we have 8 cases of missing children unsolved. How many unsolved cases of this type does england have? Just curious.. Probably some dozens more. Do you read in portuguese newspapers that british police sucks? Never heard. Just a simple comment...Grow up. No one is guity until proved. Let our police work and stop being so snobish.. Be patient and stop jugding the whole world.
mafalda , porto, portugal
Like many of you, I have a very difficult time wrapping my head around the fact that the parents could have anything to do with little Madeleine's disappearance. However, remove emotions such as pity, sadness, regret, etc-all feelings that we have for the parents and poor little Madeleine. Then look at the facts which we do not have 100% access to, we have whatever SKY, CNN, Fox news, etc drip feed us all day long. Who knows how factual any of that is---However, there are basic facts that we know, ie.. last time anyone saw Madeleine alive, etc.
What we are left with is, I'm afraid, not looking good for the McCann Clan.
I've yet to see Kate show much emotion at all and I cannot comprehend how anyone who had supposedly just learned that there is a lot of evidence that her daughter is dead would be so vacant looking--almost drugged?
Do not fire off the Anti American emails just yet---I'm just saying that it doesn't seem to bode well for the McCann's.
Rest in Peace, Madeleine xx
Mary, San Diego, CA, USA
I just hope Maddie is alive and turns up - that would be the only happy outcome to this horrific story.
gary dobbs, porth, wales
my comment is on the quality of reporting.
The Times in paper, published two photographs of a live hair and a corpse hair to illustrate how different they looked.
And indeed they looked different
The main difference to me was the two photos looked as though they were taken at different magnifications.
I note there were no statements as to which magnification they had been taken at.
The photos also did not have a marker bar which would also have given us information about the magnification.
No-one has commented on the fact that cells in a hair follicle are clonal. Identical in every respect and that means that the mitochondrial DNA is the same. This means as far as I can see as a commentator in the street that DNA marker coincidence should be exact and not 15/20
I dont know, I dont do this sort of a thing for a living
but the commentators and pundits do.
Gerald Shaw
Gerald Shaw, Manchester, U.K
To make the McCans Suspects seems to be the only official way to question them. It's better to do this than have all of the valuable information given by the parents be inadmissable in a court of law.
Linda, Portsmouth,
That Madeline McCann is missing and a DNA sample has been recovered from the hire car appear to be the only facts known to the general public concerning this incident.
Why the rush to discredit the police service in Portugal, why is it that with so little reliable information in the public domain so many people have formed such certain opinions.
Jane Tanner has claimed that she saw a lone male carrying a child, walking away from the holiday complex around the time in question, have any other witnesses been identified who saw this.
This is a deeply disturbing incident however the public reaction is bizarre to saw the least.
I think this matter would have been better dealt with had the media had been restricted in its reporting by the sub judice rules that are practiced in this country. This media frenzy regardless of who initiated it serves no ones interests least of all the child, her family or justice.
GEORGE MOIR, GLasgow,
It doesn't make any sense.
If there had been a 25-day old decomposing body in that boot, at the height of the Portuguese summer, then it wouldn't have just been the sniffer dogs going crazy!
Unless her body was kept in the hotel freezer all that time. Yeah right.
Or Madeleine was alive for most of the time between being reported missing and the hiring of the car. But how on earth would her parents have kept her hidden and, more importantly, why?
Nicola, Wellington, New Zealand
Was Madeleine a hyperactive child?? ...Was she a difficult one to get to sleep at night?...
Dee, Camborne, Cornwall
"The cadaver dog is alleged to have become excited when shown Madeleine’s favourite soft pink toy, called Cuddle Cat".
So, a dog gets excited when shown a cat - what a revelation! Either way, a tragic case for this little girl.
Stephen, Sydney, Australia
This must be a living hell for the Mc canns ,my heart goes out to them.There is no way the Mc Canns are responsible for her abduction ,whoever took her surely must be as cruel as any evil Dictater on this earth ever,and if they read this ,there is still time to redeem yourself give her back please.
Annette Mcquade, Bellshill, Scotland
Thanks to all of you - I have read comments on other forums that are just so foul they turn my stomach, there are so many people out there who seem to enjoy the McCann's sufferings. This site has restored my faith, thank you for your intelligent comments and voices of reason.
Leanne, Brisbane, Australia
We may be grossly underestimating the expertise and intelligence of the Portuguese investigators.
Not to say that the McCann's are guilty in any way but, it is a well-known fact that most children's deaths (accidentally or otherwise) are caused by their own parents and/or relatives. The police's line of investigation is universal, standard police procedure - even more so in the light of the DNA evidence handed to them by British experts (...)
We ought to know, that from an investigator's point of view, everyone is guilty until proven innocent - not the other way around.
By failing to answer some forty questions (?) and acting in a patronizing, defiant manner, the McCann's are not seen to be helping little Madeleine’s case either .
Gerry McCann is on record saying that he does not trust the Portuguese (EU) system. We wonder why? Would he prefer his wife to be treated as "above suspicion"? We can sympathize with that, unfortunately, no true investigator will.
Alberto , London, England
Thomas, It's a shame you're using this forum for a racist rant. Ironic really, considering your arguament.
Anne Price, Coventry,
Has anyone asked who hired the car in Portugal on the day of the abduction? Could the person be the man seen carrying a little girl on the evening in question?
C Wheatfill, Colchester, England
Rubbish. This woman is not a liar. The police have botched the investigation and are now wishing to take the pressure off of their own mistakes and send these folks home. Now, they are destroying their lives. Perhaps they ought to check who else hired the car around the time of the girl's disappearance. Other than that, it does it seems that any kind of travel outside of one's own country is safe when a crime is committed. It is rubbish to put this crime on these parents. Rubbish.
Diana, Malibu, California
Even if the case comes to court, and even if the portugese police decide that the McCanns are guilty, if this is what they've got then the defence lawyers are going to have a field day. Even the 'scientific' evidence is easily disputible. You couldn't even get them on a balance of probabilities, let alone beyond reasonable doubt.
Chris, Norwich, Norfolk
I must say this is true for my children, even taking them off and on planes
I also know of reports from friends etc that children do the most unexpected things ie get up& get out etc this is not new
poor little girl who knows what happened to her
I for one do NOT think her parents are guilty
this has happened before & needs to be investigated further ie who took the little girl & from where?
Ailsa, Edinburgh, UK
I have just read blogs which suggest that the way the mcCanns have behaved ie: cool and with not much emotion,is probably normal for people in the uk!!! Let me let everyone know that it is NOT normal to act in this way in Britain.The average mother probably would have been on the edge of a nervous breakdown by now.And a lot of people in Britain find it strange also to have a website with blogs and an online shop. If you go on holiday with children you must accept the responsibility for looking after them or do not take them.The way they have travelled all over, seeking attention is not the way to do it, it just looks odd! Saying that, I must stress that I hope Madeleine is found safe and soon.
maria, Newcastle, England
I agree with a few of the comments a lie detector test should be done to both of them. This was a great report though many news paper contradict themselves so it is hard to believe whats really happening. I think that if the McCanns were involved in the death it will come out in the end. No bad doing goes unpunished!
nadine carreras, Gibraltar,
Remember none of us knows just what the police have gathered.
It's been suggested that the companions at the Tapas bar all be questioned thoroughly (and apart), timelines don't add up, the bar staff have been quoted as saying almost no one left the table that evening and that large quantities of plonk were consumed. There's an awful lot that the british media have either ignored or not followed up.
I think the true story, if it ever emerges, will hold some big surprises.
Stan-expat, USA,
what has happened to rational thought here. To keep insisting that thee portuguese police are trying to frame the couple is just silly. Different countries, different ways of dealing with things.
as for The portugese police having ruined Robert Murats life. It seems that the press also had an hand in that as well.
shaun, rotherham, uk
It was inevitable that the British public and press would start railing against the Portuguese police. It was a smart and perhaps prescient move on the Portuguese authorities' part to call in British investigators, use British sniffer dogs and a British laboratory to analyse evidence. All of this, of course, is lost on the great British public, who see anything foreign or alien as inferior, inadequate, substandard, "third world". One reader even refers to the possibility of the McCanns being found guilty as "the world's biggest miscarriage of justice." Remember the Guildford 4 and the Birmingham 6? And those weren't simply mistakes. God forbid the British actually face up to the reality that two of their compatriots may have accidentally killed or even murdered their daughter and then proceeded to cover it up!
Thomas, Cork, Ireland
i do agree about the lie detector test, if its that good why aint it been used.
lisa, leeds, uk
Some people are suggesting the use of lie detectors. Surely it is widely known that lie detectors are completely unreliable quack science, and simply DON'T WORK.
Colin Davis, London,
I'm glad the Portuguese police are at last being taken seriously. They are smart people, not the bumbling fools certain parties like to paint them as. Truth will out, for me the Pope visit was the "protesteth too much" moment..we'll see.
Ian Smith, Sotogrande, Spain
This is really one of those situations where I don't know what to think, one the one hand how do they explain her dna being found in the boot under the upholstery where the spare tyre is usually kept, on the other they were always watched by the media, where would they have got the time to put her body in the car and dump her. I do think there is more to this story than meets the eye, I think its odd that the wife of the male friend who checked on the children but didnt go into the bedroom is the only person to claim she saw someone carrying a child away - could she be covering for her husband?
Sombre a thought as this is, we have to remember that both the parents are doctors and who would have better knowledge of how to dispose of a body??
I sincerely hope that the McCanns have had no involvement as so many people who gave their time and money to help out will be so dis-heartened.
Laura , Dublin,
Many persons in this forum criticize the Portuguese police officer because of accusing the parents of a possible involvement, let's see them to me: the blood of the girl was found under the surplus tire of the car driven by the parents. If the DNA proves that the blood belongs to Maddie to whom the police officer was going to accuse?. someone who lives in the Minho or in Oporto? and because I cause the parents did they decide the result of the analyses went out of portugal after acquaintance, if before they were saying not to leave the country without knowing what it had happened to the daughter? I do not want to say what are blamed, but they must be guiltier than I that I live to 5,000 kilometros of distance and I never rented this such a car.
Larry
larry, Camb., Canadá
Stranger and more unbelievable things have happened before but I pray for Madeleine and all other children out there that it is not the people they trusted most that are a potential danger to them. From the day of Madeleine's dissapearance I believed there was something not right about the whole scenario. Saying this I am not implicating her parents as such but I believe somebody with close access to Madeleine definately was involved. Maybe her parents themselves fell victim to somebody they believed they could trust with their most precious possesion. We may never know what happened to Madeleine, but God knows and he will punish whoever is responsible.
Alida - South Africa
Alida, South Africa,
I also dont know what to beleive any more but theres no smoke without fire, god bless you maddie where ever you are
tony , southend on sea, essex,
Not enough evidence has been revealed to the public for us to be able to say whether or not the McCanns were involved in the disappearance of their lovely daughter. Innocent until proven guilty!!!! She may be alive and well. If she is, I wish the abductor/s would put Kate and Gerry and the rest of us out of our misery. I want to wish Kate and Gerry well and I hope they will one day have a happy ending to these truly tragic events.
Sue, Herts, England
Ramon, my children's favourite soft toys tend to 'stink' of staleness from their unwashed hands, food traces and so on, usually quite unpleasant. I would wash them regularly to get rid of the germs from being dropped on the floor for example and to keep them fresh. If Kate washed Cuddle Cat 4 days after she got it back from the police, it would be to get rid of the dirt and grime that had accumulated from the police handling it. She would have wished to have it fresh and clean for Madeleine. Mums (and doctors) generally don't like their children to walk about with such dirty, stinky toys that they sleep with. If she wanted to 'smell' memories of Madeleine, she'd have her clothes to do that with.
Fiona, Inverness, UK
I think it is important to look at this case with a very open mind.Inevitably questionable errors have been made by the investigating party as much as`by the parents themselves.I am sure like the millions of parents world wide who have lost and continue to lose children,their pain is heart wrenching-and if they are innocent as they have proclaimed from day one,then they have nothing to worry about as the truth will surely triumph...In response to one of the comments above that said the parents don't fit the profile-I disagree,because if there was a particular "murderer stereotype,then I am sure murder cases would be solved in an instant....I hope people are not so close minded,to think such crimes are potentially committed by a certain social class .Once again it is a good thing to reserve any strong emotionally charged comments till the end.
m, London, United Kingdom
I´m thoroughly sick of the portrayal of the Portuguese police as bumbling idiots, particularly by British ex-police officers. British police have never made mistakes have they? I´m not sure what happened to the poor little girl and my heart goes out to her. Nevertheless I refuse to be taken in by what increasingly appears to be the McCann publicity machine. The outpourings of grief by people who have not a clue of what actually happened,are almost Diannaesque in their nature.
Pete Corrigan, Santa Pola, Spain
Everybody is now concerned to "image", and show who was right.... Dont Forget about MADELINE ....and Justice.
Jorge, Lisbon, POrtugal
Considering the lawyers the McCanns hired recently, i would say it will be very easy for them to question the integrity of the evidence in court and it seems likely that the evidence obtained by the police will not be sufficient to link the parents to their daughters death.
I have been following both portuguese and british news and there is a lot of speculation about the evidence by the media. Although there is no certainty about how valuable it really is in court.
Fabio, Warwickshire, UK
Oh what a very, very sad and devastating story - an absolute nightmare. It just doesn't bear thinking about. The ONLY truth we know is that poor little Maddie went missing at such and such a time....
With all the media attention, P.Police investigations, British Police, Social Services etc etc... I feel it is so IMPORTANT to maintain an OPEN MIND. These investigations MUST be undertaken (preferably with professionalism and discretion - but that's impossible in today's day and age), But every POSSIBILITY must be investigated FULLY and likewise, eliminated accordingly. AND regardless of the McCanns professional status - IT REALLY ISN'T IMPORTANT! It goes for everyone in this world...INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY.
From the bottom of my heart, I pray and hope that Maddie is alive and being looked after. . . and as the story and investigation unfolds ...so will Maddie, alive and well. May God bless you Maddie.x
Claire, Wales, United Kingdom
Not one poster here knows what evidence the police have. Their own laws forbid them from publicly revealing details so where is this stuff coming from? We only know what the press tell us; how reliable are they?
As for them being set up by the Portuguese police, it is a fact that they have only become suspects since the British FSS found evidence. Is it suggested that the Brit authorities are colluding in this?
If suspicious evidence exists, the McCann's MUST be challenged about it. To do otherwise is simply incompetent.
As for those who think say that they don't fit the profile, how exactly can you tell? By their media exposure? Get real. I know them as well as most of you do; not at all.
Very good people have been known to do very bad things by act or omission. The police cannot over-look that. Let them do their job. One way or the other the truth about the McCann's will emerge. What is most important is that the childs fate is explained.
RJ, Channel Islands,
None of us know the truth as we were not there the night Madeleine was reported missing.I do not believe anything written in or broadcasted by the media. It is only from their point of view. so far its all hearsay, and from unnamed sources, informants and relatives and freinds of the McCanns.People condeming the police in portugal because they havent done their jobs properly...Are we back in the middle ages where witch hunting, drowning midwives and stoning people to death was the norm? It sure feels like it. If anyone on this blog thinks they can do better than the portugese police, get a plane ticket and go and show them I am sure they would benefit from your experience and advice.
caroline higgins, Birmingham, G.B
Lie detectors (polygraph machines) are, at best, 90% accurate. So we would not be sure even if such tests were conducted.
Roy Allen, Hong Kong,
Have they thought to check who rented the hire car before the McCanns?
Could it be some freakishly random coincidence that the real abdudctors/killers hired the same vehicle at an earlier date.
BJ, Sydney, Australia
I am quite objective in this matter, but it is a common fact, that you are far more likely to be killed by someone you know than a complete stranger. I don't know whether they killed their daughter, but it is natural that the authorities will look to the people nearest to the victim as a potential suspect, particularly in the absence of other clues. And lets face it they have chased every clue there is.
Yes I'm sure they could have handled it better, been more on the ball, been quicker to gather evidence from the McCann's which may have proved or disproved their guilt, but just because they are parents doesn't mean they are incapable of killing.
dch, nottingham, uk
What about inglish police? Did they or did they not work in Praia da Luz, since the biginning, with portuguese police?
Why parents of a missing child refuse to answer 40 questions to the police? Don´t they want to clarify everithing that help investigation?
Vera Lima, Porto, Portugal
I do not see how a couple photographed continuously could have hidden a childs body then recovered it and taken it away to be concealed permantly 25 days later, it makes no sense, especially to then make sure the whole world was looking for her..
hazel wyld, freshwater, isle of wight
If evidence was found in the car. Have the police ruled out other drivers before the Mc Canns hired the car?
Dan Kennedy, Belfast, N Ireland
Honestely, I hope that Gerry and Kate MacCan would be inocent, honestely, and I hope also that Maddie would be found alive.
Filipe Vieira, Portugal, Portugal
You have forgotten to mention a third possibility. That the Mccanns car has been planted with the specimens of Maddies hair, skin scrapings etc. Do you really believe the police are not involved?
eden, Nth Coast, NSW
Does anyone seriously believe that these parents would hide their daughters body and then go on for months, traveling all around Europe publicizing the fact that she is missing with balloon releases, etc.? Obviously, they would have gone back home if they knew where she was by now.
Theresa, St. George, UT, USA
This constant speculation by the press and from people such as yourselves posting on this forum is ridiculous, its all conjecture. There isnt a journalist or a Times reader alive who knows what happened for sure yet so why not let the investigation take its natural course?. I find it so odd that people such as Elizabeth Miles of Bristol writes things like "Kate McCann did not do this" How do you know? None of us do so can we all move on and stop the wild speculation until a democratic countries justice system does its job. I'm quite agog at the number of broadcasters (Nick Ross in the Evening Standard yesterday for example) and other media commentators all very quick to pronouce their judgements "She definitely did it, she definitely didnt" ecetera. Cant we just admit we dont know
Greg C, London,
I do not know whether the McCanns are innocent or guilty. None of us here can say that with any certainty. Supposition and rumour-mongering are unhelpful. Opinion gets translated into 'fact': a very dangerous route to go down. Imagine yourself being on the receiving end of such injustice.
Madeleine is missing and may never be found. In such circumstances, piecing together a picture what has happened relies on robust evidence, painstakingly gathered and analysed.
The portuguese police have come under sustained criticism for their amateur and unprofessional handling of this case. The british police have been/are involved, albeit belatedly. Evidence has been analysed at a UK based, world respected forensic laboratory with a great deal of expertise. UK based sniffer dogs have been used. Experts from the UK were involved in evidence-gathering.
So the circulating theories about evidence-planting will- presumably -need to take into account the UK's role in the evidence produced to date?
elizabeth, cambridge, uk
Some of these posts have irked me somewhat. First, I am wondering why someone would take the time and energy to submit a comment which belittles others for doing the same. Second, the reason why people feel the need to express their views (right or wrong) is that this is a highly emotive situation. The thought of what might have happened to that little girl makes me sick to the stomach, and I’m sure the majority of people feel the same. I am not a religious person, but I still pray for her in my own way. Finally, I strongly believe in the sentiment ‘innocent until proven guilty’. Madeleine’s parents have been through enough, without being wrongly accused of their daughter’s murder.
Nicola, North West,
None of you would have a shred of doubt about the parents's innocence. They could confess the murder and you still wouldn't believe it. Why?
I doubt they are guilty. But it IS possible.
I'm portuguese and as I read on another article, you seem to think Portugal is a banana republic. It is not. We are a small country yes, but a proud decent one. Get real. Support the McCanns all you want, but don't come offending our country. The police is working hard, and the evidence is suspicious, not meaningless. Portugal is always kissing Britain's toes while you seem to take every chance to step all over us. It is our fault indeed. We should be prouder.
The police is not trying to frame anyone, could you please at least consider that there are bad people everywhere and (God forbid) some of them might be British.
Maria C., Porto,
The police obviously find it easier to accuse people they can see like Mr Murat and the McCanns, they need to put their efforts into finding the child or what happened to her, maybe that is too dificult for them.
lorna, McLelland, Mojacar, Almeria, Spain
Why do we not hear anything about previous hirers of the Scenic ? In a small rsort it is perfectly possible for the killer or abductor of Madeleine to have hired this same vehicle either before or immediately after committing the crime.
Mo, Inverness, UK
"lousy police forces" in Portugal and Spain? just as an example, all the responsible for the 11-M Madrid attack were arrested only few days after. Where are the responsible of the 7-J London attacks?
Jacobo, Madrid,
Our hearts go out to all the family whatever happened! Its so easy to judge especially when such a beautiful child is involved, it touch the world's heart. As a gran with my own angelic grandchildren I weep and pray for them. But I also know how easily an accident can happen with small children, so whatever happened - and I don't believe the parents are responsible for any direct misdeed, but whatever these people need to be loved and comforted. There by the grace of God goes every parent, so look at your own and be grateful.
Christa van Eeden, Johannesburg , South Africa
I am sick of people saying how wrong it was for the parents to leave the kids that night, i think we all know that was not a great idea. As a mother of 5 and a parent for 20 years i have made many mistakes some small 1 big one long ago but i was lucky and my son was fine. Do we not remember the saying "He who has not sinned cast the first stone" I doubt many of us have NEVER made a mistake as parents no matter how small. When i saw the news that Maddy was missing a bit more of my faith in human nature died especailly with all the problems on our streets.
I don't belive these parents had anything to do with their daughter going missing but if i'm wrong than a bit more of my faith will be lost.
I have a 2 1/2 yrs old and i know if anything happened to her i could not just dispose of her like a bag of rubbish and carry on with dinner!
How could anyone have worked this around police and media?
it's not right to say these people did this and show no proof. Mud is sticking.
pauline, armagh, n.ireland
Err, just to remind everyone that there are lots of other missing children, missing PEOPLE in Europe and indeed the world over. This story has had far too much airtime and is simply tiresome now.
Ben Robinson, Brighton,
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
Gavin, Belfast, Northern Ireland
The evidence reported so far is very circumstantial. Also, there was a 25 day period between Madeleine going missing and the car being rented by he McCanns- who knows who rented the car during this peiod of time. Have the police looked into interviewing all people who rented the car in the aforementioned time period?
I feel for the McCanns - I have a strong suspicion that they are being stitched up. Let's hope the perpetrator of this crime at least lets police know, even if they don't turn themselves in, that the McCanns are not repsonsible for this crime.
sandra, LA, USA
I do not see how a couple photographed continuously could have hidden a childs body then recovered it and taken it away to be concealed permantly 25 days later, it makes no sense, especially to then make sure the whole world was looking for her..
hazel wyld, freshwater, isle of wight
Unfortunately anyone who is made a 'suspect' is automatically tainted. Too many people - the police, anyone who feels vulnerable, those who like happy endings - actively want a suspect to be found guilty. It reassures people that the police are competent and can protect them, and, in this case, that there isn't a child abductor on the loose. However an enormous percentage of suspects aren't guilty, and this is most likely in the case of the McCanns. Until a suspect is charged and found guilty, everyone should always remember that they may well be innocent. No-one who is suspected of a crime should automatically be condemned - don't forget it may be you next who is accused of something you didn't do, and you will need the support of those around you. It can happen to anyone.
Alexandra Campbell, Faversham, Kent
Assuming 'bodily fluids' were found in the hire car, has anyone checked who had the car hired when Madeleine disappeared?
It would, of course, be a horrible coincidence for the McCanns to have hired the same car that an abductor used, but no doubt possible.
David Bevan, Watford,
My two year old slept through a burglar alarm going off 6 feet from his bed...... for 3 hours.
What is this rubbish about Kate McCann calling Sky News first? Smacks of someone trying to deflect blame from his country's police force's delayed reactions to me......
Gladys, London,
While the missing Maddy is a tragedy regardless of who is to blame the comments by Dom London put it into perspective when he says that 27000 children have gone missing during the period of Maddys disappearance. I have seen notices for missing children recently in most countries in Europe so collectively we are possibly talking about 1000 children going missing everyday. Even if only 1% of these are never found that is 10 a day or 365 a year. When are we going to REALLY try to stop paediophile rings such as those uncovered in Belgium a few years ago but conveniently brushed under the carpet because high level individuals were involved.
George, Glasgow, UK
The suggestion that people are being disrespectful to the Portuguese police is partly true but lets face it, they have horribly mismanaged this case.
They have constantly leaked information to the Portuguese media, to defend their tactics, that they later have to refute or minimise. For example, damning DNA evidence is now hear only an 80% match - which could be from a sibling.
They have botched this from the start. I am not sure if the McCanns did do this but the police have been culpable in creating all sorts of conjecture.
The number one rule in any murder investigation is to immediately investigate the closest people to the victim and keep tight control of all information.
Yes, we dont know for sure she is dead but they should have taken parallel steps and didn't .
Finally, the bible is little comfort when you read all the murder, rape and violence that was perpetrated in gods name and under his auspices.
Paul McDevitt, Toronto, Canada
I would agree with Tom from Uxbridge, with a big sigh.........Wherever I seem to be lately, there is always some do gooder Miss Marple or Hercule Poirot throwing in their misguided and misinformed version of who dunni